Help finish my kanto team and rate

[squeeb]

venosaur
calm
leftovers
252 hp/ 252 special def/4 speed

sleep powder
giga drain
hp psychic
leech seed


blastoise
calm
another hp restoring item
252 hp/ 252 special def/4 speed

surf
ice beam
rapid spin
toxic

charizard
adamant
salac berry
attack 252/ speed 252/ hp 4

Belly Drum
Fire Punch
Earthquake
Substitute

Gengar
modest

252 special attack/ 252 speed



another two pokes from kanto and a moveset item for gengar

[Whitdjinn]

I would suggest using a couple of the following pokes:

Vaporeon - You already have a bulky water, but this one far outclasses blastoise, downside is no rapid spin.

Aerodactyl would be a supurb lead, giving you both speed, power, and a couple support moves.
(Taunt, Stealth Rock, EQ, Rock Slide

alakazam is unmatched in special attacking power, although gengar is very strong also..

Standard moveset for gengar includes:

T-bolt
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Hypnosis/focus blast

I would also consider perhaps:

Machamp (bulky dynamic punch is pretty good)

Starmie (Another special attacking option which can include rapid spin)

These are all very viable

[squeeb]

ill use Aerodactyl any ideas on an item??, and that moveset for gengar, what about an item for him?? does anyone use dreameater on him anymore???

now i just need a 6th poke... hmmm

[Whitdjinn]

aerodactyl as a lead should have a focus sash

for gengar if you go with focus blast in the last spot, use choice specs or expert belt
if you have hypnosis wide lens is good to help the accuracy.

Also, black sludge works just like leftovers on any poison typed pokemon.

[MissingNo.]

I would suggest using a couple of the following pokes:

Vaporeon - You already have a bulky water, but this one far outclasses blastoise, downside is no rapid spin.
Could also just use as support. HP getting low? Vaporeon's supreme HP and awesome SpD can usually allow a couple of Wish uses. Helps heal up that bulky Venusaur for another reign of terror.


Aerodactyl would be a supurb lead, giving you both speed, power, and a couple support moves.
(Taunt, Stealth Rock, EQ, Rock Slide)
XD I am a fellow fan of Leadactyl.


alakazam is unmatched in special attacking power, although gengar is very strong also..

Standard moveset for gengar includes:

T-bolt
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Hypnosis/focus blast

I prefer Gengar for straight offense. Double typing prevails in sweeping capability. Plus add in rapid spin blockage.


I would also consider perhaps:

Machamp (bulky dynamic punch is pretty good)

Starmie (Another special attacking option which can include rapid spin)

These are all very viable

I agree with Starmie. Most people go with some sort of set-up or rapid spin starmie, but straight up starmie has real prowess. You want to talk about type coverage, starmie has it. Youre usually going to hit with STAB or Super Effective damage. But with a surf/psychic tandem, expect some STAB SE quite often, especially in the OU.

Another viable gen 1 Poke is Jolteon. I know the SpA sweepers are getting redundant here, but that seems to be what happened to that gen as we evolved to DPP. Jolteon is a viable lead, countering with speed and hitting for STAB SE damage on Leadactyl. Basically its a battle of the speed ties and focus sashes.

If you want physical, try Dugtrio. Choice Banded Dugtrio is going to scare anyone.

And finally, if Blissey is out of the picture, Chansey is still usable. Even though it is NFE, it still has UU and even OU walling capabilities.

[Deneves]

Don't forget Snorlax as a SPDef wall and I am a big fan of Tentacruel also.

[squeeb]

oh, i loved dugtrio back then, i think i might use him, what about maybe a dragonite??

gosh there are so many options...

[MissingNo.]

oh, i loved dugtrio back then, i think i might use him, what about maybe a dragonite??

Dragonite is popular, yes. However, I'm not a fan. Salamence out-classes it for one. And unless you have a Yache Berry or focus sash, its hard to set-up a DD. Ice moves are everywhere now, preventing those pesky dragons from DDing on you. And if you want to go another route other than DD, then some sort of Ice attack is bound to find you. I just have never liked the X4 Ice'd Dragons. Smogon has made it a standard to have just about every pokemon provide a means of disposing of them. This is when OU becomes EOU, extremely over-used, to the point where I just *yawn* boooooooooring.

[squeeb]

if i use dugtrio with stone edge eq, sucker punch and arieal ace.. does it leave a hole in my team anywhere???

would u use a + speed or +attack nature ???

[MissingNo.]

if i use dugtrio with stone edge eq, sucker punch and arieal ace.. does it leave a hole in my team anywhere???

would u use a + speed or +attack nature ???

both Jolly and Adamant are very viable natures. Its really up to you. Jolly will help you out-speed some dangerous counters. But Adamant will help out is very sub-par attack. I'm even indecisive about it. But with that Choice Band, Jolly seems to be the nature of choice.

Ariel Ace is of course recommended by the professionals, but I never liked it. I use a Dugtrio often on Shoddy. Try pursuit instead.

[squeeb]

pursuit is dark right??? suckerpunch has power of 80 and is dark also

[Whitdjinn]

pursuit will catch gengar, cresselia and other levitaters (Specifically ghosts) for double powered damage as they try to switch out.

[MissingNo.]

pursuit will catch gengar, cresselia and other levitaters (Specifically ghosts) for double powered damage as they try to switch out.

Except no one will try to switch out. At least not experienced battlers. Dugtrio's ability will block that attempt.

[Whitdjinn]

except that levitaters and flying types aren't affected by that ability, and many levitaters are ghosts which is why pursuit works so well on them.

[squeeb]

i have two items, which poke would you use them on. venosaur or blatoise??

shell bell heals 1/8 damage done

leftovers heals 1/16 hp

[Ancient Mew]

i have two items, which poke would you use them on. venosaur or blatoise??

shell bell heals 1/8 damage done

leftovers heals 1/16 hp

Use Black sludge on Venosaur and blastoise the Leftover or Shell Bell. Now you have one extra item you can use.

[squeeb]

oh man... duh, venosaur is poison ... i can do that then, makes more sense... sorry