Poké Academy: Project 2 * Semester 3 [Archive]

BugCatcher6

07-27-2009, 05:04 AM

Farms are named and time to get them into action. We will start with some themed egg move Pokémon.

I will list the Pokés by group and give the credits assigned to each and you may select which one you want to build. Remember, each Poké can be completely bred without TMs/HMs. After you are done breeding you will have to write a report on how you got each move on your Poké. (Example) Using a male Ratatta I passed on level 22 Crunch to a female Growlithe.

Oh extra credit for this project, 1 credit extra for each IV that is 31. Your Pokémon will be collected at the end of the project.

Project Timeframe
Monday the 27th of July and ends Sunday the 2nd of August.
You can post what Poké you will be building or you can PM them to me.

Groups

Disco Hoothoot

3 Credits

Move-set (3-4 Credits)

Faint Attack (1 Credit)
Night Shade (1 Credit)
Feather Dance (1 Credits)
Open Slot (1 Credit if it matches the theme of the build)

Nature Bonus: Hasty (1 Credit)
Total Credits: 6-8

Speedy Bellsprout

2 Credits

Move-set (2-4 Credits)

Sunny Day (1 Credit if TM is not used, 0 Credits if it is)
Synthesis (1 Credit)
Solarbeam (1 Credits if TM is not used, 0 credit if it is)
Open Slot (1 Credit if it matches the theme, Think what moves would alter speed)

Nature Bonus: Timid (1 Credit)
Total Credits: 4-7

Godzilla Aron

3 Credits

Move-set (2-4 Credits)

Dragon Rush (1 Credit)
Stomp (1 Credits)
Iron Tail (1 Credits if TM is not used, 0 credit if it is)
Earthquake(1 Credits if TM is not used, 0 credit if it is)

Nature Bonus: Brave (1 Credit)

Total Credits: 5-8

Pass-it Venonat

3 Credits

Move-set (3-4 Credits)

Baton Pass (1 Credit)
Agility (1 Credit)
Sleep Powder (1 Credit)
Open Slot (1 Credit if it matches the theme of the build)

Nature Bonus: Timid (1 Credit)
Ability Bonus: Compoundeyes (1 Credit)

Total Credits: 6-9

Fanged Poochyena

2 Credits

Move-set (4 Credits)

Poison Fang (1 Credit)
Fire Fang (1 Credit)
Ice Fang (1 Credit)
Thunder Fang (1 Credit)

Nature Bonus: Adamant (1 Credit)

Ability Bonus: Quick Feet (1 Credit)

Total Credits: 6-8

Reports

Pokémon Chain

Each Pokémon used to get your moves.
Levels each Pokémon learned the moves.
TMs/HMs if used.

IVs

HP/ATK/DEF/SP.ATK/SP.DEF/SPD
Also a bonus for each IV at 31. (1 Credit per 31 IV)
Bonus for the best IV Pokémon out of the group.(2 Credits)

Nature

Nature that enhances your Pokémon's stats.(1 Credit)

Move-set

Each Pokémon has the 3 moves I selected.

4th move benefits the other 3.

Sources to use
PokéFarm PokéDex (http://www.pokefarm.com/pokedex)
Serebii PokéDex (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/)

The PokéFarm PokéDex also has information on moves, but the Serebii PokéDex shows what Pokémon can teach your Pokémon the move you want.

Also if anyone has any other sites that have detailed PokéDex, please post and I will add it to the list.

Also for those of you that don't know IVs, this site uses the standard listing of IVs as HP / ATK / DEF / SP.ATK / SP.DEF / SPD.

Which for those that don't know all the abbreviations.
HP = Hit Points
ATK = Attacks
DEF = Defense
SP.ATK = Special Attack
SP.DEF = Special Defense
SPD = Speed

Projects

Cowmoo83

Pass-it Venonat

rj61

Pass-it Venonat

predictions of doom

Godzilla Aron

Pikadude609

Pass-it Venonat

Empoleon67

Godzilla Aron

slammer951

Godzilla Aron

ice tomb9

Disco Hoothoot

Rolytic

Disco Hoothoot

BlueTempest

Pass-it Venonat

slammer951

07-27-2009, 06:49 AM

I use this site for chain breeding:

http://waitingforseedot.appspot.com/

You just put in the moves and the Pokemon; it shows you the chain to get those moves. You can also put the moveset without a Pokemon name and it will show you all the Pokemon who can learn that moveset. I find it very useful when breeding!

cowmoo83

07-27-2009, 09:36 AM

so are we actually going to have an farm event for this or do we just turn one in? And will we get our "best of the bunch" pokemon back eventually? One more question... you have a certain amount of point right under the pokemon... ex. venonat is 3 and aron is 2 points. Are those just general difficulties? Do we just gain them if we decide to do that pokemon?

Btw. My choice is Aron.

rj61

07-27-2009, 09:54 AM

Well I guess I will pick Aron too. Unless you don't want us picking the same pokemon.

predictions of doom

07-27-2009, 10:27 AM

I'll go with Aron as well, I suppose.

Pikadude609

07-27-2009, 11:21 AM

Well I guess I will pick Aron too. Unless you don't want us picking the same pokemon.

Me too. But wont this end up with us all getting similar points. With the only ones getting higher are the ones with good ivs.

BugCatcher6

07-27-2009, 01:12 PM

Well slammers chaining link kinda messes up the whole thought process of this event. Really with that page what is the point of teaching how to breed? The work is done for you and there is no thought process. The things I know about Pokémon I gained by looking at move lists and egg groups and matching everything up. At one point I knew almost every Pokés' move list and what level they gained most of their moves.

This event will stand as is and future events will be adjusted to reflect the fact that the waitingforseedot program does the work for you.

Yes the credit under the Poké is the difficulty and you will get your Pokés back if you want them back. Although now the difficulties are pointless.

Projects

Cowmoo83

Godzilla Aron

rj61

Godzilla Aron

predictions of doom

Godzilla Aron

Pikadude609

Godzilla Aron

Empoleon67

Godzilla Aron

slammer951

Godzilla Aron

BugCatcher6

07-27-2009, 01:21 PM

Credits have been adjusted a little. Those that chose Pokés already have until tomorrow to change your mind.

Pikadude609

07-27-2009, 01:35 PM

Can we get a little extra time since i spent all day prepearing for one and now the points changed i want to switch.

rj61

07-27-2009, 03:36 PM

OK not that it's difficult but I am switching to Venonat. I have some good parents that I have been breeding in that family so I want to switch.

ice_tomb9

07-27-2009, 03:45 PM

I think i'll go with Disco HootHoot.

Pikadude609

07-27-2009, 03:49 PM

Ill go with Venonat too.

cowmoo83

07-27-2009, 04:36 PM

Are we aloud to evolve the pokemon or do they have to remain in their base states. This is especially important for the "choose your own" move slot...

For now, I'll choose venonat. I may change back to aron later though depending on what your answer is to the previous question.

Oh yeah... what time will you be available for trade because I think that, to get the best results (IV wise), I'll want to breed down till the last minute. So, will you be available at the stroke of midnight or what? Maybe you should post many sets of times that are good for you on the assignment page?

Another question... do these pokemon have to be lv. 1? Or can we mention their EV spreads, etc. Seems like it'll have to be lv. 1... maybe the rules should be a bit more clear...

Pikadude609

07-27-2009, 06:56 PM

Looking for seedot is also wrong.

Since that says Weedle and Skorupi dont breed with ledyba but they do since they are in the Bug Group.

cowmoo83

07-27-2009, 07:19 PM

Looking for seedot is also wrong.

Since that says Weedle and Skorupi dont breed with ledyba but they do since they are in the Bug Group.

can you link me to where it said this?

Pikadude609

07-27-2009, 07:40 PM

Nevermind. That we me thinking wrong.

BugCatcher6

07-27-2009, 10:32 PM

Can we get a little extra time since i spent all day prepearing for one and now the points changed i want to switch.

You need more time to decide what you are switching to? If you mean more time to do the project the answer is no. There is still 6 1/2 days to breed 1 Pokémon.

Are we aloud to evolve the pokemon or do they have to remain in their base states. This is especially important for the "choose your own" move slot...

For now, I'll choose venonat. I may change back to aron later though depending on what your answer is to the previous question.

Oh yeah... what time will you be available for trade because I think that, to get the best results (IV wise), I'll want to breed down till the last minute. So, will you be available at the stroke of midnight or what? Maybe you should post many sets of times that are good for you on the assignment page?

Another question... do these pokemon have to be lv. 1? Or can we mention their EV spreads, etc. Seems like it'll have to be lv. 1... maybe the rules should be a bit more clear...

The rules are not clear? Do you trade level 1 Pokémon for farm events or do you EV train them and level them up for people?

cowmoo83

07-27-2009, 11:29 PM

The rules are not clear? Do you trade level 1 Pokémon for farm events or do you EV train them and level them up for people?

Well, we're turning them it... and since I have no experience with this academy what would I know? Besides, who says the academy is a breeding event?

slammer951

07-27-2009, 11:57 PM

I'm sticking with aron , I really like his moveset and maybe I could use him for some battling.

BugCatcher6

07-28-2009, 12:24 AM

Well, we're turning them it... and since I have no experience with this academy what would I know? Besides, who says the academy is a breeding event?

Who says the academy is a breeding event? Um the farm naming, stories, and the fact that you are breeding Pokémon is making this a breeding event.

Projects

Cowmoo83

Pass-it Venonat

rj61

Pass-it Venonat

predictions of doom

Godzilla Aron

Pikadude609

Pass-it Venonat

Empoleon67

Godzilla Aron

slammer951

Godzilla Aron

ice tomb9

Disco Hoothoot

cowmoo83

07-28-2009, 09:50 AM

I don't want to fight... I'm just saying, It's no ordinary breeding event. You should spell out every single rule for the people who can't just guess what you are thinking (like me :P).

Gouswer

07-28-2009, 10:24 AM

Oh, I remember this project...*wishes he could take part*

Good luck to everyone :O!

BugCatcher6

07-28-2009, 01:40 PM

I don't want to fight... I'm just saying, It's no ordinary breeding event. You should spell out every single rule for the people who can't just guess what you are thinking (like me :P).

I am not fighting, I just never had to spell out everything for any of the other classes.

Projects

Cowmoo83

Pass-it Venonat

rj61

Pass-it Venonat

predictions of doom

Godzilla Aron

Pikadude609

Pass-it Venonat

Empoleon67

Godzilla Aron

slammer951

Godzilla Aron

ice tomb9

Disco Hoothoot

Rolytic

Disco Hoothoot

BlueTempest

07-28-2009, 08:07 PM

I'll take Venonat. Sorry I didn't reply earlier, this is the first time I've been able to get on the computer during my vacation. Gonna have to do this good!

cowmoo83

07-29-2009, 10:06 AM

Another question... what is "theme" of the build? Does it mean the kind of move that is usually used in that type of moveset? Or is it like another type of move that seems to go with the others...?

For example:

Venonat-
Sleep powder
Agility
Baton Pass
Move of choice (should it be a STAB (because they are usually used in this type of situation) or should it be something like substitute (that goes with the other things in terms of stuff you can pass)?

You need to make these things a bit clearer...

I've already bred my whole moveset, so if a STAB move isn't right, then I don't' think you should deduct points from people's scores because theme is one of the vaguest words you could have used.

Next time, spell out every single rule even if it seems obvious to you. And next time maybe give us some better pokemon to work with... ones that we could use later (hmmm?).

Sorgatani

07-29-2009, 10:18 AM

The idea was to use your intuition - if we spell out every answer for you, then we can't be certain you understand, because you'd just be following instructions in that instance.

What, to you, constitutes a 'pass-it' venonat? The moves you've been given, and then, yes - assess the other options and figure out a way to get them onto your beast-in-progress.

Gouswer and I both built 'annoying ledyba' last year, and we both ended up with a credit bonus for moveset; despite that we chose very different 4th moves!

Fitting the build is a bonus - I hope you don't stress too much over it.

cowmoo83

07-29-2009, 12:10 PM

Thanks for the explanation, tani! ^^

BugCatcher6

07-29-2009, 12:21 PM

In the other classes I never had to give such detail. The idea for the open slot is to see your imagination and thinking. I can't tell you what to add to a Pass-It Venonat since I would be doing your bonus for you. Do you think an attack would benefit the build? Do you think that if you put something to sleep and would have possibly a free round to use Agility would you be fast enough and survive another round to maybe use another stat boosting move to Baton Pass? The options are completely up to you and what you think it should be, there are more then one possibility.

I just figured turning in a level 1 Poké was a given since there is a deadline and who wants to level up a Poké for the final result? If you evolve a Poké for a move to finish the move-set for the open slot, then that is not breeding a move-set. The project calls for a Venonat not a Venomoth.

cowmoo83

07-29-2009, 03:54 PM

I'm just saying, this isn't a breeding event. It's the academy... and you shouldn't just assume stuff. Just write everything in the next rules so that there are no more misunderstandings please...

Trombones13

07-30-2009, 07:05 AM

As Tani and Buzz have already said, if everything is being spelled out for you, you have no room left to do anything original. What if Buzz said, "breed this Pokemon, with these moves; this is how you get all of the moves onto the offspring?" You can't do anything unique, which defeats the whole purpose of the assignment. Look at the moves you're required to breed, think about its strategy, and then decide what additional move would suit the breed well. Your move choice may differ from someone else's, but that doesn't necessarily mean you've made the wrong decision--there's more than one right answer in these assignments.

Right now, you should be focused on breeding the best Pokemon you can, not picking at every single detail. It'll make this event much less stressful for everyone involved, yourself included. ^_^

cowmoo83

07-30-2009, 11:03 AM

That's not what I meant he had to spell out. I meant that you should spell out all of the rules, etc. Like this pokemon must lv. 1 when traded, etc.

joinred1127

07-30-2009, 11:06 AM

The project is to breed a pokemon, not to level up and fully train a pokemon.

Sorgatani

07-30-2009, 11:13 AM

Because this is a Breeding project, level 1 seems essential to the process - so that you can show off what moves you managed to get onto a fresh-hatched pokemon.
If you were raising the pokemon's level, you could be teaching it level-up moves, which is great, but kind of losing the point. As well as making the IVs of your hatchling harder to check!

cowmoo83

07-30-2009, 11:34 AM

yeah... I get that now. Just didn't in the beginning. It's all good now.

predictions of doom

07-30-2009, 01:37 PM

When you say that the deadline is Sunday (at Midnight), do you mean that our Pokemon have to have been hatched before then, or that they have to be turned in by that time?

BugCatcher6

07-30-2009, 01:39 PM

When you say that the deadline is Sunday (at Midnight), do you mean that our Pokemon have to have been hatched before then, or that they have to be turned in by that time?

Yes. I need your report by the deadline of Midnight, your time, and then at some point the Pokémon have to be traded to me.

Pikadude609

07-30-2009, 01:53 PM

Yes. I need your report by the deadline of Midnight, your time, and then at some point the Pokémon have to be traded to me.

What so we can send our report of our moves in then but then give the pokemon in like a day later on the monday or something when we see you online.

BugCatcher6

07-30-2009, 01:58 PM

What so we can send our report of our moves in then but then give the pokemon in like a day later on the monday or something when we see you online.

Yes, because the Pokémon will have the date of when the egg was received and hatched, so I will if the Pokémon was not finished by midnight on the 2nd. Unless someone goes and changes their DS time and date, but if you need to cheat on the time, well yeah he-he.

BlueTempest

07-30-2009, 02:20 PM

Cool. This helps buzz.

cowmoo83

07-30-2009, 02:38 PM

Plus, the report is supposed to include IVs so if the IVs are any different, Buzz'll know that it wasn't turned in on time.

slammer951

07-30-2009, 04:55 PM

Just to let you guys know, I'll be traveling after tomorrow for 10 days and will have little access to internet but I will try to get my Pokemon handed in and report done by tomorrow. Hopefully throughout next week I'll check back in again to see what the next project is.

BlueTempest

07-30-2009, 11:06 PM

Buzz, can you show us how you want the report format done?

Sorgatani

07-30-2009, 11:29 PM

Buzz, can you show us how you want the report format done?

The report should be done in a way that is

Readable
Understandable
Shows the research that you have put into the project

Example 1 - Sorgatani (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=101573&postcount=32)

Example 2 - Kiwi (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=101643&postcount=37)

Example 3 - Mikona (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=101724&
postcount=39)

Example 4 - Gouswer (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=101776&
postcount=41)

Example 5 - Trombones13 (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=102139&postcount=56)

Hope these help

BugCatcher6

07-31-2009, 12:16 AM

Actually all 5 of those examples show off kinda what I was talking about in the next project thread.

I wonder how you got to be first in the examples. :p Na thanks tani for digging for those examples.

Sorgatani

07-31-2009, 12:21 AM

BugCatcher6

07-31-2009, 12:31 AM

LOL

Couldn't possibly be because mine was the first to be handed in, nah that'd be too obvious :p

I could have only dug out mine, but I thought that giving more than one example would be a better idea - because all the reports presented similar kinds of information but in different ways.

It was a very good set of links. 5 reports and each had different comments from myself as well. Which by those builds I kinda got an idea of how your style would shape out. I mean with Gouswer's you can kinda see offense, offense, offense, which is o.k., but the build was annoying Ledyba and he was looking to get to the bulk of his team. No problem with that. I just find it odd after reading back over some of the events how a lot of what was done in those projects showed a lot about the person doing the reports.

Which I know Gouswer was pretty new at the time and if memory serves was not happy with the way he was battling. Which after the academy he started battler better. Not saying the academy had anything to do with that. :rolleyes:

Na I am just using gouswer as an example and picking on him because he does not have a Golden Combee. :)

Which also if memory serves right, I believe Tani beat gouswer out that semester for the Golden Combee. o3o

Trombones13

07-31-2009, 06:21 AM

Oh, yuck; the Skitty one... :P LOL

BlueTempest

08-01-2009, 02:39 PM

Do we post the project of pm them to you, buzz?

BugCatcher6

08-01-2009, 02:42 PM

PM them first so we can grade them and then I will post them with their grades.

Gouswer

08-01-2009, 05:37 PM

Geez Buzz, I am honored :P

I guess what you say is true, since my most succesful team *cough19winsand3losses* is *extremely* offensive. I am in the process of building a pure stall team though, dunno how that will turn out.

Pfft, we all know I would of beat Tani if you hadn't stopped the academy right before I went on PWNing spree :rolleyes:

But yeah zzub, I can't wait for semester 4. Hopefully you'll let me join that one. We all know deep inside I've always been your favorite student :rolleyes:

BugCatcher6

08-02-2009, 12:05 AM

We all know deep inside I've always been your favorite student :rolleyes:

Don't let nettie hear you say that, oh wait don't let t4l hear it either. They both think I liked one more then the other he-he.

As far as semester 4, you do realize it is just more then my butt you have to kiss o3o he-he. I have a board for making all the important decisions. ;)

Oh wanted to mention this real quick. The 2 projects that I have received via PM already, wow :eek:. Amazing Pokés so far.

cowmoo83

08-02-2009, 12:08 AM

I would have mine in, but I've had terrible luck... >.< Well, it's all turning up... I'm checking a set right now and they're seeming pretty good... I'll probably need 2 more rounds to get the IVs I want though...

Good luck to everyone else! ^^

joinred1127

08-02-2009, 02:15 PM

As far as semester 4, you do realize it is just more then my butt you have to kiss o3o he-he. I have a board for making all the important decisions. ;)

If any of you want to get a jump start on kissing my butt, I like chocolate and cash donations in denominations of fifties and hundreds. :cool:

Gouswer

08-02-2009, 02:47 PM

If any of you want to get a jump start on kissing my butt, I like chocolate and cash donations in denominations of fifties and hundreds. :cool:

*sends Red a life size chocolate sculpture of Flusso with bills of $50 stuffed in*

BlueTempest

08-02-2009, 03:33 PM

Lol *sends a chocolate volcano that erupts $100 bills*

And to keep this thread on subject:
Good luck everyone! Can't wait to see the grades.

BugCatcher6

08-02-2009, 05:09 PM

Lol *sends a chocolate volcano that erupts $100 bills*

And to keep this thread on subject:
Good luck everyone! Can't wait to see the grades.

You will find academy threads rarely stay on subject he-he. Classroom antics are hard to break I guess.

Anyway, even though this is against what I said, I am going to extend the deadline for reports. No longer then Midnight Monday though. I would like to receive your specimen Pokémon before the end of the week though, the sooner the better.

I will be posting the next project either tonight or tomorrow morning. I have to make a few changes. I am going to add a bit of flex time into the projects so students don't feel like all they are doing every day all day is breeding Pokémon. Although I can't imagine what else anyone would want to do. :rolleyes: :p

BlueTempest

08-02-2009, 05:11 PM

So, Buzz, if the deadline is extended does that means the grades are posted later as well?

BugCatcher6

08-02-2009, 05:13 PM

So, Buzz, if the deadline is extended does that means the grades are posted later as well?

I can post the grades of the reports I have, but until I receive the Poké and check the IVs, I cannot make the grades final.

cowmoo83

08-02-2009, 05:14 PM

OMG thanks x1000 Buzz!!! I'm just having terrible luck so these IVs all stink... now I can do something else now, yay!

Too bad tomorrow I'm having friends over practically all day... o_o

Rolytic

08-02-2009, 05:16 PM

Well now that the deadline's extended, I hope to have some good competition from people. Muaha...cough... I mean, good luck all!

But seriously, I hope everyone else gets some great babies! Cowmoo, I'm sure the RNG will love you sooner or later. :)

BlueTempest

08-02-2009, 05:19 PM

Alright, but could you post them up?(or mine) I've been jittery about it ever since I posted it up. I'm starting to think I might have even released my guy or mixed him up with my other guys! BTW I'll trade the poke to you tomorrow.

predictions of doom

08-02-2009, 05:22 PM

You tell me that the deadline's extended just as I send in my report... *shakes head* :p

Should we nickname our Pokémon, so that they don't get mixed up with others?

Good luck to everyone!

Gouswer

08-02-2009, 05:25 PM

You tell me that the deadline's extended just as I send in my report... *shakes head* :p

Should we nickname our Pokémon, so that they don't get mixed up with others?

Good luck to everyone!

You should nickname them anyways! That's my favorite part of the proccess O3O

cowmoo83

08-02-2009, 05:27 PM

The first thing I thought about was the name lolz XD

It's perfect for this lil' dude (that hasn't been bred yet) (or has he... maybe he has...)

Gouswer

08-02-2009, 05:28 PM

The first thing I thought about was the name lolz XD

It's perfect for this lil' dude (that hasn't been bred yet) (or has he... maybe he has...)

*names his unborn fetuses*

What sucks is when they end up being female >_< Can't nickname a female Hippo "Sandman" e.e

BlueTempest

08-02-2009, 06:05 PM

Buzz, can you post the grades you currently have, even if they are not set in stone?

cowmoo83

08-02-2009, 06:42 PM

Buzz... quick question. Will the best IV +2 award be given to the person who gets the 31s in the right places or the person whose IVs add up to the most?

BlueTempest

08-02-2009, 06:44 PM

I'm curious about that too.

BugCatcher6

08-02-2009, 11:41 PM

IV bonus is a combo of both. If someone has 4x31 IVs and someone else has 3x31 IVs, but they are in the right place, you have to admit that the 4x31 IVs is pretty remarkable by any standards.

O.K. now I will be grading the projects. Which the grades should be very similar to the credits originally posted.

Well within the next few threads there will be grades. ;)

rj61

08-02-2009, 11:45 PM

Buzz I cannot get you my project in anyway for this project. I am going to stay in this semester but I just couldn't participate this round.

cowmoo83

08-02-2009, 11:48 PM

but if someone had 2 31s with all other stats at 25+ and one person had 3 31s with all stats at 10-, who would win best IVs?

BugCatcher6

08-02-2009, 11:51 PM

Farmer BlueTempest:

Pass-it Venonat (3 credits)

Report:
Nature: Timid (1 Credit)
Ability: Compoundeyes (1 Credit)
IV’s: 23/27/31/25/31/31 (3 Credits)
Moveset: Baton Pass, Sleep Powder, Agility, Substitute (4 Credits)

Pokemon Chain:

Mr. Mime- learns substitute at level 29

Cacnea- passes the move substitute from human shape egg group to grass egg group

Paras- passes the move substitute from grass egg group to bug egg group

Ledyba- learns substitute from paras, learns baton pass at level 22, learns agility at level 30

Venonat- learns substitute, baton pass, and agility from ledyba, learns sleep powder at level 29

I’m not fond of using tm’s while breeding, so I chose Mr. Mime as my candidate to pass substitute ( learned at level 29) to my pokes. I passed substitute from a male Mr. Mime to a female cacnea, then a male cacnea passed it to a female paras so I could get substitute into the bug egg group. A female ledyba then picked up substitute from a male paras and learned baton pass and agility at levels 22 and 30. Finally, a male ledyba passed his moves to a female Venonat, which I then leveled up Venonat to 29 for sleep powder, as well as a partner, so I could pass the level up move down to their offspring.

Final Grade: 12 Credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: Wow 5 Pokémon in your chain, that is awesome. No attacks may be a huge hindering, but if the support around Venonat is good well sub pass away. IVs, well perfect since you Venonat won't be attacking. Not using a TM, priceless. I think some students stressed a bit about the IVs which remember they are just a bonus and shouldn't be stressed over, but I believe you must have given out a little OMD, oh my dang, when you saw this one. Nice build.

BugCatcher6

08-03-2009, 12:00 AM

Farmer Rolytic:

Disco Hoothoot (3 credits)

Report:
Nature:
Lonely (+attack, -defense) (0 credit)

Moveset: (4 credits)
Faint Attack
Night Shade
Featherdance
Swagger (gotta be confident when you're dancing. Just don't lay it on too thick. Or if you're the vindictive sort, this lets you confuse your opponents into messing up.)

IVs:
25/31/31/15/25/31 (3 credits)

Chain:
Level Pidgey to 25 to get Featherdance
Breed featherdance onto a female Murkrow
Level said Murkrow to 21, then 35 to get Night Shade and Faint Attack, respectively.
Evolve Murkrow and use move relearner to get a Honchkrow with Swagger, completing the moveset.
Breed moveset onto female Hoothoot.

And since Hoothoot doesn't learn any of these by level-up, I had to make sure the male passing moves on didn't forget anything. It only happened once when I was going for a good Murkrow/Honchkrow. But luckily when I got some good hoothoot parents, I just left them there for a while, and got my final product!

I had a hard time getting a Hasty offspring, but I went for one that at least didn't hinder Speed or Attack. I got lucky that my best IVed birdie raised one of them.

Final Grade: 10 credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: Natures can be pesky. I can't give you a credit for the nature, but I like that you adjusted to it. I would have taken 3 bonus credits over 1 nature credit any day. And the move Swagger, I should give you an extra credit just for that, I can imagine HootHoot swinging his swag rag around. You mentioned that your daddy Poké lost a move by leveling up, did you happen to take a good IV male out of the Daycare? Yeah as long as the Pokés remain in the daycare the offspring will have the move-set the parents entered with, but as soon as you collect the parents they adjust to the new levels. So I guess you got a bit of extra homework on that one. Good to know though for future breeding. ;)

BugCatcher6

08-03-2009, 12:08 AM

Farmer predictions of doom:

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Godzilla Aron (3 Credits)

Report:

Moveset: (4 Credits)
Dragon Rush
Stomp
Earthquake
Iron Tail

The Breeding Chain:
:443:Gible (Male) learns Dragon Rush at level 37. I then bred the Gible with a (Female) :111: Rhyhorn. The Rhyhorn learns Stomp at level 9, and Earthquake at level 49. The Rhyhorn was then bred with a (Female) :304: Aron. A (Male) Aron offspring is learns Iron Tail at level 39. IV breeding then follows.
No TMs were used.

IVs:
31/31/31/24/20/26 (3 Credits)
Perfect HP, Attack, and Defense, so that this Godzilla will be able to wreak maximum havoc on any city, and still take a couple hits from whatever gets thrown at it.

Nature: (1 Credit)
This Aron is Brave, raising it's Attack and lowering it's Speed.

Ability:
Sturdy. You won't be able to 1HKO this monster when she's on a rampage.

Overall:
I'm pretty happy with this breed. I will admit that the time constraints were a little stressful, but it definitely served as a lesson in time management.

Final Grade: 11 Credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: By the looks of things, leveling a Gible to level 37, a Rhyhorn to level 49, and an Aron to level 39 would be pretty time consuming. I can see that maybe I will have to step the next project up a bit. This is one of the best builds I have seen in awhile, IVs make it a beast.

Trombones13

08-03-2009, 06:49 AM

Wow; great IVs so far. Good job, guys!

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 02:36 AM

Farmer Pikadude609

Pass it Venonat (3 credits)

Report:
Nickname- BugSwap

Moves:- (4 credits)

Baton Pass
Agility
Sleep Powder
Substitute- (I chose this move because then you have more time to use agility and could use sleep powder again behind the substitute.

How I got the Moves:-

1- :122: Male Mr Mime Lv.42 With Substitute
2- Breed With Female Illumise :314:
3- Hatch a Male Volbeat with Substitute :313:
4- Breed Male Volbeat :313: with Female Ledian :166:
5- Hatch a male and Female Ledyba
6- Level both ledyba up to Lv.30.
Get Baton Pass at Lv.22
Get Agility at Lv.30
7- Breed Both Ledyba Together and Hatch Male Ledyba with Agility,Substitute and Baton Pass.
8- Breed Male Ledyba with Female Venomonth :049:
9- Hatch Male and Female Venonat with the 3 moves :048:
10- Level Both Venonat Up to Lv. 29 at which they learn Sleep Powder.
11- Breed Male and Female Venonat Together to get the Final Venonats :048: with Sleep Powder,Baton Pass,Agility and Substitute.

No TM's Used.

IVs- 19/15/28/7/31/16 (1 credit)

I was doing really bad and missed a lot of time so my iv's weren't good. But i seem pleased since I haven't gotten over 1 31.

Nature- Timid (1 credit)

Ability- Compound Eyes (1 credit)

How I think I have Done:- I think I have done good for myself for getting 1 31 on a Pokémon but I think I could have done better and i will try for at least 2 31's on the next project.

Final Grade: 10 credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: IVs take a bit of luck sometimes, keep plugging away at them though. Nice chain though, the Illumise/Volbeat part is a pain sometimes.

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 02:42 AM

Farmer Empoleon67:

Godzilla Aron (3 credits)

Report:
I choose Godzilla aron as my project. To start out, I went to victory road to catch two vital tools, a rhyhorn and a gabite. After catching them, I leveled up gabite to level 49 so it learned Dragon rush. After that, I bred the gabite with the rhyhorn, to produce a rhyhorn with dragon rush. Next, I went to Fugeo Ironworks to get an Aron. Unfortunately I couldn’t find a female, so I breed one with an Aron that I caught and a ditto. I then leveled up that rhyhorn to level 49, so it would know both stomp and earthquake. I breed this with the female aron and got 2 arons, Male and female, and leveled them to level 39 so they knew iron tail, dragon rush, stomp, and earthquake. I then bred them for ivs and nature I ended up getting this aron Brave 23/31/18/10/3/14. Unfortunately, brave females evaded me.

Move-set: (4 credits)
Nature: (0 credit)
IVs: (1 credit)

Final Grade: 8 credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: The report could have been a little more streamline, but it doesn't hurt the credits, just my eyes. :p Good process in your breeding, starting a Ditto collection may help out with the tough Natures.

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 02:55 AM

Farmer Cowmoo83:

Pass-it Venonat (3 credits)

Report:
Name: Hot Potato (get it?)
Nature: Timid (1 credit)
Ability: Compoundeyes (1 credit)
IVs: 6/31/5/31/23/31 (man, I tried forever on this, I had a parent with 4 31s and one with 3 31s, but my last round just stunk, so I ended up having to use one from a previous round. You may say it's good, but the other stats just stink and it really makes me mad...) (3 credits)
Moveset: (4 credits)
Agility
Baton Pass
Sleep powder
Signal beam

Pokemon Chain:

Get a male masquerain (or surskit). Teach it agility at lv. 31 and Baton pass at lv. 43. Breed the masquerain with a female venomoth(nat). Level up a male and a female baby and teach them both sleep powder and signal beam (learnt at lv. 29 and lv. 35 respectively). Finally, breed the two leveled up venonat.

Oh yeah, if you were wondering... yes, I'm a perfectionest.

Final Grade: 12 Credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: Nice build, but let me tell you why only 3 credits for the move-set. Signal Beam is a STAB, but the possible effect is confusion. Confusion could help Venonat pass Agility, but it also could cause a switch to something that may effect your pass. Other moves that would have benefited over Signal Beam and it's confusion effect, would have been Zen Headbutt, Agility has you faster now and a flinch may help if you are the last Poké or your only other Poké would be weak to the opponents. Poison Fang, poison is great incase you can't put any more of your opponent's Pokés to sleep. Psychic, Agility speed and a chance to lower SP.DEF, helps out somewhat. Screech, get that opponents DEF down and baton pass out. Which no let me change this, rethinking this a bit. Maybe confusion could benefit. If your opponent switches out the confused Poké, that gives you a free round to baton pass or maybe another agility, plus you could see what your opponent brings in so you can pass appropiately. Sorry, late night brain fart.

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 03:00 AM

Farmer ice_tomb9:

Disco Hoothoot (3 credits)

Report:
Moveset: (4 credits)
-Mirror Move (You can't beat throwing back your opponents move)
-Featherdance
-Faint Attack
-Night Shade

Breeding Chain:

To start off I leveled a Male Chatot to level 9 to learn Mirror Move and level 41 to learn Featherdance.
Once Chatot had both moves I bred him with a Female Murkrow.
Once I got a Male Murkrow I leveled him up to level 21 to learn Night Shade and level 35 to learn Faint Attack.
Once I suceeded in that I bred the Male Murkrow with a female Hoothoot.

IVs:
25/30/29/31/25/5 (1 credit)
Perfect Special Attack. I was disappointed that the 3 31 IVs I had didn't pass. This one had the best IVs.

Nature: (0 credits)
Quirky
(-NA -NA)
The only nature I could get an abundance of.

Ability:
Insomnia

I just couldn't get a Hasty nature except with a Male Murkrow. The IVs are a big disappointment to me. Mirror Move I chose as my filler.

Final Grade: 8 credits / IVs best in class ???

Final Comments: IVs are painful, give it time and the RNG luck bug will get ya. Mirror Move is perfect, you gotta look good in front of that mirror before a night at the disco. :p

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 03:27 AM

I am stuck on who has the best IVs for this project. I haven't tested each Poké yet, but assuming the IVs are as stated, I am polling the Academy's board on this. I myself am stuck between BlueTempest or predictions of doom. BlueTempest has to have the bulkiest looking Venonat and predictions of doom, I believe created a monster with his Aron.

Right now given what I think, I am picking doom's Aron. However I have to wait for the board to vote and the IVs to be tested.

I can start collecting your Pokémon anytime tomorrow after noon(GMT -05:00) and up until Friday.

BlueTempest

08-04-2009, 12:28 PM

Good IV's doom! Looks like we're neck to neck in this project.

predictions of doom

08-04-2009, 01:25 PM

Good IV's doom! Looks like we're neck to neck in this project.

Yours are amazing as well :)
I can't wait to see what the board decides.

On a side note, Buzz's post should say:

created a monster with her Aron.
Just thought I'd point that out :p

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 03:32 PM

In regards to my moveset, yes, I thought about the confusion effects, but I also thought about STAB, and the fact that if you know that you're gonna get killed due to type advantage, etc, then why not just get in a quick move?

I could be completely wrong, but that's just my opinion on movesets in general...

BugCatcher6

08-04-2009, 03:50 PM

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 04:49 PM

But this is just a breeding class and not a battle class. You build to complete the theme and not to do damage.

are you kidding me?! What the heck does that teach us!? I don't use themes in a battle, I focus on what will do the most damage... seriously, you shouldn't be doing "themes" when you could easily be changing the class slightly just to teach battling too. It's just pointless...

And this just goes into my earlier complaint about you not explaining what "theme" is. Seriously, you should have told us that theme meant that, because according to what was answered by some other people, theme meant pretty much anything as long as you could describe why.

Cinder

08-04-2009, 07:25 PM

What the heck does that teach us!?
How to breed Pokemon. Last time I checked, this is a breeding class, in which students learn Pokemon breeding techniques.

...You could easily be changing the class slightly just to teach battling too.
Why? To duplicate the purpose of Battling Arts?

And this just goes into my earlier complaint about you not explaining what "theme" is. Seriously, you should have told us that theme meant that, because according to what was answered by some other people, theme meant pretty much anything as long as you could describe why.
Theme, n. A specific and distinctive quality, characteristic, or concern. ("The campaign has lacked a theme.")

"theme." Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2009. Merriam-Webster Online. 4 August 2009 <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theme>.

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 07:30 PM

Rolytic

08-04-2009, 07:39 PM

What I don't get is why I should be almost penalized just because I chose to go with a battling "theme."

Cowmoo, battling isn't a "theme", it's a strategy. The strategy for the Venonat in this case was to be a Baton passer. To me that means putting baton pass and 3 moves that help the next switch-in the most.

I assume that since you only got 3 credits for the moveset means that the board collectively decided that your 4th move was more of a hinderance to the Baton Pass strategy.

This was the first assignment. Points-wise, you did very well. But to me, all I see is someone complaining about the details because you didn't get FULL credit. Focus on what you did, not what you didn't do. This next assignment's another breeding project, so try your best there.

Don't stress out so much, this is supposed to be fun. :twocents:

Cinder

08-04-2009, 07:49 PM

What I don't get is why I should be almost penalized just because I chose to go with a battling "theme." It doesn't make sense... and plus, this doesn't really teach battling, all you do is go and tell everyone to breed stuff with good IVs... I don't get why we can't do more of our own movesets... It doesn't have to be a battling class, but is should teach how to build a moveset yourself (ex. a potential battling moveset). Are we going to be able to divide off of just doing 4 set moves anytime soon?

The theme of the project you selected was Baton Passing, not "battling" or whatever other arbitrary descriptor you may have wanted. "Pass-It Venonat." Baton Pass.

You're correct that the project didn't teach battling. It was not intended to do so. It was intended to help people grasp fundamentals of Pokemon moveset breeding.

I'm not saying your particular move choice was either great or poor in this instance, but you don't seem to have clear comprehension of the purpose of these projects. The impression I get from reading your posts is that you simultaneously want precise instructions laid out for you in detail, while also wanting freedom to breed whatever you want regardless of any proposed guidelines.

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 08:00 PM

All I'm saying is that if we're going to spend so much time breeding for good IVs, we might as well be able to use them. And if they are gonna be usable, then they need to have good movesets.

Besides, from what tani said it definitely seemed like we were supposed to be going with what we would if we were to use this pokemon in an actual battling environment.

The idea was to use your intuition - if we spell out every answer for you, then we can't be certain you understand, because you'd just be following instructions in that instance.

What, to you, constitutes a 'pass-it' venonat? The moves you've been given, and then, yes - assess the other options and figure out a way to get them onto your beast-in-progress.

Gouswer and I both built 'annoying ledyba' last year, and we both ended up with a credit bonus for moveset; despite that we chose very different 4th moves!

Fitting the build is a bonus - I hope you don't stress too much over it.

Cinder

08-04-2009, 08:05 PM

All I'm saying is that if we're going to spend so much time breeding for good IVs, we might as well be able to use them. And if they are gonna be usable, then they need to have good movesets.

You don't need to breed for good IVs. It's not required. If you're unhappy about how much time it takes-- which is completely understandable; it's a huge pain-- then don't do it. In fact, it's probably a lot more efficient to not worry unduly about getting high IVs on Pokemon that, for example, don't have movesets you wish to use competitively.

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 08:11 PM

The thing is, I wanted to get a callous breeder's thumb out of this. To be able to go forever breeding and not stopping because I've been known to breed and then stop for like a month.

the other thing I wanted was creating our own movesets. I believe that it would be just as challenging as it is now, except we might use them once in a while in our actual team or something.

All I'm saying is that maybe you should consider including something for the people who are newer to breeding, something for the people just getting into it, and something for the people who know how to battle, but want to become a master.

BlueTempest

08-04-2009, 08:18 PM

We had a poll on fighting with our pokes and I think in the near future we will. I think it will start getting up to speed soon for those of us that know how to breed. This is like level 1. I think the last project won't be the same as this one, because that will be when we have learned all this stuff already. This is like the basics.

cowmoo83

08-04-2009, 08:22 PM

I'm good with that and I will continue, but that is if this gets more hands on and less, just follow a build and get the iVs on it. Possibly creating own movesets from scratch? I don't know. All I'm saying is that it doesn't seem like there was much of a step from the second challenge to the third one, so maybe the board should consider a bigger step from the third to the next one... maybe....

Trombones13

08-05-2009, 06:41 AM

All I'm saying is that maybe you should consider including something for the people who are newer to breeding, something for the people just getting into it, and something for the people who know how to battle, but want to become a master.
Brady, I don't know how much more we can say this. If you're looking for battle information, there's a program called Battling Arts that will help you out with that. Pokemon Academy is geared toward breeding. Also, if you're worried about your Pokemon's moves not being what you'd like competitively, change them after the grading. If you remember Lenore, the Murkrow I bred for last year's Academy, I changed the moveset around after completing that assignment to make it a more battle-geared set. You don't have to keep that moveset forever--just until the project's over.

My suggestion to you is to stop nitpicking about little things, especially things that have already happened and can't be changed. Project 3 has just started, and if I were you, I would already be breeding for it instead of standing here griping about Project 2 even though what's done is done. :twocents:

BugCatcher6

08-05-2009, 10:35 AM

First off, this is a breeding academy. It lost the battling part when I started the BA and then gave it up. I won't duplicate the work they try to do there. Even though when I started the BA I was trying to show the staff I could still run the academy and I had planned to go right into the breeders & battlers mixing the BA back into the academy, but the BA was taken over by others when I took my break.

Second, where do you see that you were penalized for doing a battle theme? I see the credits for the move-set are 3 and a 4th with the open slot matching the theme and I see you got a 4 for move-set. So I don't see the need for a complaint stating you were penalized.

Third, there is one simple solution to all of this, if you want more battling, go back to the BA and drop the breeding.

BugCatcher6

08-05-2009, 11:32 AM

I currently have the Pokés for BlueTempest and predictions of doom. I will IV test them as soon as I get back from taking my daughter to the mall. :rolleyes:

Also after a few discussions with the board, I believe the best IV winner, giving IV testing results, will be prediction of doom.

Since we had 4 members with 3x31 IVs, we looked at IV placement, which is what awarded predictions of doom with the best in class award.

However we also looked using a different method. Adding up all IVs to find a total.

Which the results were,

BlueTempest: 168
predictions of doom: 163
rolytic: 158
cowmoo83: 127

But that also lead us to think that a trainer with say 6x25 IVs would be able to beat out someone with actual 31 IVs and then some crappy IVs.

We also looked at p.o.d.'s aron had 31 IVs in HP and DEF, which are the hardest 2 IVs to breed for. Which either by design or by luck that is pretty awesome.

So as it stands until testing is done, prediction of doom will take the 2 extra credits and be bumped to the 1st in class with 13 total credits for this project.