IV help!

[spursdude2]

Please help me!

i wanted to know my starters IVs so i did a search of the fourms and found a thread made by the one and only BUZZ! it had a link to a IV calculator on the serebii site and i did what is said and my IVs were

HP 21
Attack 31
Defence 31
Sp. Atk 31
Sp. Def 17
Speed 31

Its lvl is 100

is this possible?

The stats are

HP 299
Attack 208
Defence 235
Sp.Atk 290
Sp.Def 201
Speed 181

He's a Empoleon with a Rash nature

Thanks

[andyc15]

Omg those are great Ivs O_O
The highest an Iv can reach in one stat is 31 so you have 4 of them maxed out.

You should be very proud of your little penguin ^_^

[spursdude2]

so I didn't type it wrong then?

[andyc15]

No not at all.

But seriously, if you EV train that Empoleon it'll be sooo hard to beat XD

[spursdude2]

I have given it the effort ribbon so i cant EV it... how can i check EVs?

[BugCatcher6]

If you don't know the EVs then that is why you have 4 stats with 31 IVs. You need to know the EVs to calculate the IVs right. You could remove all the IVs, but since it is level 100 you could only put back EVs from vitamins, which would be 100 max in each stat.

[andyc15]

As far as I know you can't. You have to keep record while you're training. Thats why its best to start Ev training with newly hatched or caught pokemon.

If you want to get rid of the Evs on a pokemon and start over, you can feed it special berries.

[spursdude2]

@ buzz if i dont know the EVs how will i find out the IVs?
@ Andy ok i'll see if i have any

EDIT:

I have some but how do i use them propaly?

[andyc15]

If I have any, you can have them, but I don't think I do


Edit: Feed them to your pokemon

[spursdude2]

how do i know if they have worked?

[BugCatcher6]

You won't find accurate IVs without knowing the EVs. It will show higher IVs due to the fact that your stats are higher, but without figuring in the EVs that make those stats higher.

You can't EV train a Level 100 Pokemon. You could in the 3rd Gen games, but not in D/P.

[spursdude2]

ok... your a expert on this... what do i do :-S

[BugCatcher6]

You can remove all your EVs and be left with a weaker version of your Pokemon, but you will know it's IVs. You can then feed it vitamins, 10 Vitamins per stat giving it 100 EVs for each stat. Not as strong, but the best you can do.

[andyc15]

it might be easier to breed a new pokemon and try to pass on those Ivs then Ev train the new pokemon

[spursdude2]

woah i think i'll leave it as it is! i checked a calculator and
Hp 0
Attack 6
Defence 29
Sp.Atc 12
Sp. Def 0
Speed 31

what should i do?

EDIT:

i might do that...
which nature and which charicteristics?

[andyc15]

Your choice, but Id recommend a nature that increases speed.

[spursdude2]

ok thanks
Buzz could you close this?

[andyc15]

If you need any help or an Iv battle partner, just pm me ^_^

[BugCatcher6]

Wait I have a question.

What do you want your Empoleon to do in battle?

Be a Special Wall, Sleep Talker, Special Sweeper, Agility Sweeper, Psychical Sweeper, or even a Swords Dancer.

[spursdude2]

a pokemon that gives me the starting advantage in a battle... i always send him out first to weaken the foes pokemon and knock some out

shall i post all his moves and that?

[BugCatcher6]

Best thing for Empoleon to be for that is Calm Natured to boost his Special Defense. His move-set should look something like this.

Empoleon - Calm

Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot/Protect
Yawn/Roar/Stealth RockThe 3rd move you could choose between Grass Knot or Protect. Protect would be used to scout your opponent and see what they are up to. You could see if they were going to boost stats or just start attacking. Which that would leave to your 4th move selection. Stealth Rock to keep your opponent from switching their Pokemon around. Roar to get rid of something that could really hurt you or just to get that stat booster back on their bench. Yawn is a good option, because Empoleon should be able to last atleast 2 rounds for your opponent to fall asleep.

[andyc15]

O.O nice build Buzz.

Was that just off the top of your head?

[spursdude2]

@ buzz ok thank you buzz and which characteristic should it have?
@ Andy Is he a lord?

[BugCatcher6]

No that was from Smogon. I look at Smogon for the most common builds for Pokemon and then I try to give them a little surprise of my own. That one was straight from Smogon though.

Characteristics are not something you look for. They are your highest IV, so breeding will tell you what your characteristic should be.

[spursdude2]

ok thanks!

[BugCatcher6]

You still want this closed? Or would you like to see what kinda info builds up on the subject?

[spursdude2]

see what info builds! if you had closed this then i would be back where i started!

[andyc15]

@spurs: He is our shepherd T~T

@Buzz:.....Well I'd hate to run into you and your pokemon in a dark alley

[spursdude2]

LMFAO i never thought the irish were so cool! lol j/k

[andyc15]

LMFAO i never thought the irish were so cool! lol j/k


0.0
You're lucky that Im too lazy to swim across the see >.<

[BugCatcher6]

@spurs: He is our shepherd T~T

@Buzz:.....Well I'd hate to run into you and your pokemon in a dark alley

Well if anyone has battle my Gym and remembers my Pokemon named Garbage, well she has just had a baby sister and she is even nastier then Garbage was. She just needs EV'd trained. I am not completely happy with her IVs, but I can let you judge.

Impish Nature
23 / 22 / 30 / 23 / 31 / 26

I so wanted to have another 30 IV in there at speed or maybe attack or the heck with it I wanted HP, ATK, and SPD to have atleast 30 IVs, but getting a 5 IV beast is not that easy he-he.

[spursdude2]

@ Andy lol lets change the subject before we get to the irish jokes! lol j/k

@ Buzz YOUR SAYING THATS BAD???????? you make me look like a noob!

[BugCatcher6]

@ Andy lol lets change the subject before we get to the irish jokes! lol j/k

@ Buzz YOUR SAYING THATS BAD???????? you make me look like a noob!

Well considering Garbage looks like this.

Garbage Jolly Nature
17 / 24 / 26 / 31 / 30 / 31

[andyc15]

@Buzz: Heh yeah but Def and SpDef are the complete opposite to what you planned. XD

@Spurs: Ohhh I got one. An Irish man and a Scotish man walk into a bar......

Ohh I forgot it again T.T

[spursdude2]

Well considering Garbage looks like this.

Garbage Jolly Nature
17 / 24 / 26 / 31 / 30 / 31



@ Buzz I'm no NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!! lol j/k! stop posting IVs now its getting on my nerves that i cant max out two stats!

@ Andy Lord your cool AND funny!

[andyc15]

I'm no NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!! lol j/k! stop posting IVs now its getting on my nerves that i cant max out two stats!

Well the thread is called "Iv help" XD

[BugCatcher6]

Biggest thing to breeding good Pokemon, and this is something I had to learn, is finding good Dittos. I only like natures that don't lower Defense or Special Defense, but if they have good IVs I keep them anyway just to breed. I have a Ditto for ever Nature and most of them have atleast 1 IV of 30 or 31. I breed until I get one stat and then breed those with another Ditto to get another until I get atleast 3 on one Pokemon. Takes alot of time, but if you have a good IV battle partner then it is easy.

[spursdude2]

@ Andy yeah HELP not SHOW OFF!

@ Buzz How do you do IV battling?

[andyc15]

I only have one Ditto and its nature is Serious T.T

Gotta go guys, see ya'll later =3

[BugCatcher6]

Go into wi-fi and do a level 100 battle. If only one person is checking IVs the other just runs and waits. You go to switch Pokemon, but hit summery and right down their stats and then when you have them all wrote down you run. Take those stats along with the natures and plug them into an IV calculator.

Back in the day celph and I IV tested 120 Pokemon in one session.

[spursdude2]

what difference does the ditto thing make?

[spursdude2]

dont you need to EV first?

[BugCatcher6]

what difference does the ditto thing make?

Ditto can breed with anything, so you can reuse your best Ditto to breed a Yanma, Larvitar, Absol, and Piplup all in one day. To IV breed with Pokemon of the same type, you would have to hope both already have good IVs or hope you get lucky with the RNG, Random Number Generator.

[spursdude2]

i need the RNG! lol

[BugCatcher6]

Oh that gives me an idea, I should list my team of Ditto on my farm section. I could also maybe start offering some of my private stock IV Pokemon. Like the auction thing had good IV Pokemon for trade, but you should have seen the IV beast I kept out of the groups. I don't trade away my best he-he.

[spursdude2]

might you be able to get me a IVed Piplup? i will give you a Event or shiney!

[BugCatcher6]

I have never bred a Piplup he-he. I was thinking of maybe doing an event where I would build one Pokemon for a person, but can't decide on what type of contest to hold to decide the winner.

[spursdude2]

please not a battling one! i have to go i'll PM you about the pokemon later

[Jhamin]

You can remove all your EVs and be left with a weaker version of your Pokemon, but you will know it's IVs. You can then feed it vitamins, 10 Vitamins per stat giving it 100 EVs for each stat. Not as strong, but the best you can do.

Another option may be avalible depending on how many berries you have. Berries #21-#26 will remove your pokemon's EVs. If you have enough, you can feed your Empoleon enough berries to comepletely strip if of it's EVs. (If you have maxed a category it should take 11 berries in that stat.) When you are left with the EV-less pokemon you should be able to accuratly calculate it's IVs, then turn of your DS without saving.

When you reload your game all your EVs will be there and you will know your IVs.

[spursdude2]

or i could just put 0 for everything in the calculator!

[Jhamin]

Putting 0 in the calculator won't help I'm afraid.

If you feed it EV-Reducing berries, it's stats will go down. The IVs and EVs are both giving you stat bonuses. If you know *exactly* how many EV points a pokemon has the calculator can factor them in and give you the IVs. If you don't know the EVs, you are just guessing and will get wildly inaccurate results. Until you eliminate the EV bonuses, there is no way to accuratly calculate the IV bonuses.

What you really need to know is what the Pokemon't Stats are when it is stripped of it's EVs.


Which is why I suggested the Berry/Reset the DS idea.

[andyc15]

Does the macho brace double the EVs gotten from vitimans?

[spursdude2]

@ buzz. How many eggs does it take to get the right nature

[BugCatcher6]

@ buzz. How many eggs does it take to get the right nature

If you are using a female or a ditto with the correct nature and you have them hold an Everstone it is suupose to be 50% chance to pass on nature. If you have neither, then it is as random as walking outside and getting hit by a bus.