iv &ev are sending me bannanas

[Slizer107]

I want a rlly good team, and pokemon that are either IV OR EV Bred are rlly strong, everywhere i look, it starts not explaining it step by step plz help, i want a strong team. Cos i got trounced by 2 gym leaders yesterday, not in game but pokefarm leaders =(

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Currently going crazy not understanding IV

[Viscosity]

EV's are easy: Just fight the pkmn for the specific EV you're looking for: Which Pokemon give What EV's (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=801)

IV's are the hard part, b/c you have to find some good IV pkmn and then breed them to get good IV's in multiple categories: Breeding for IV's (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showpost.php?p=25238&postcount=4)

[Slizer107]

Visc or some1 i still dont understand them cos ive got a batch of 12 chimchar all of their stats are 6 or below =(

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Currently going crazy not understanding IV

[Jhamin]

Did you actually read the guide that Viscosoty posted a link to and that Bugcatcher went to the trouble of writing?

The answers are all laid out. But it is complicated and you do have to follow along. It goes into great detail on how to check your IVs. Just hatching a pokemon and looking at it's stats will not work.

Do you have specific questions? If so we can help you. But "I just don't get it" doesn't really give us a place to start.

[razorbeam]

Visc or some1 i still dont understand them cos ive got a batch of 12 chimchar all of their stats are 6 or below =(

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Currently going crazy not understanding IV

The only way to find out what the IVs are for your pokemon is a 2 step process

1. do an IV battle at level 100, this way you can check the summary for their stat at level 100.

2. after recording the stat, you need to enter them in an IV calculator to find out what are their IV. The highest number is 31.

Note: i use Bugcatcher's guide http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=1615&highlight=master+breeder

[belnumcree]

Slizer did the guide I sent you yesterday help any at all?

[BugCatcher6]

Visc or some1 i still dont understand them cos ive got a batch of 12 chimchar all of their stats are 6 or below =(

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Currently going crazy not understanding IV

You are mistaking IVs with physical stats. All Pokemon at level 1 will have a range of 4-7 Stats besides HP which could be 11-14. If you hatch an egg and look at it's stats, that is not the IVs but the actual stat.

I don't know how else to explain, but you can't look at the Pokemon and see 6 Attack, that IV sucks. Because at level 100 that same attack stat could read 300 and IVs range 0-31.

I don't get it though. You PM'd me for like the last 2-3 days asking the same questions.

The answers are in this forum and on the web. A simple search can find all the information you could every need. I got all my Pokemon know how from doing searches on the web. I tested in the game to add to what I have learned. The Master Breeder guide, not to sound full of myself, is one of the most complete guides you will find on the web. I simplified it as much as possible. Other sites that had guides go into the formulas the game uses to figure everything out, I did not use them because I wanted people without a degree in thermal engineering to understand the process.

Breeding for move-sets, natures, and IVs are all pretty simple if you take the time to sit down and read the information and then reread it. Print a copy to have as a reference and go step by step.

Also you don't need great IV Pokemon to start your project. Most people think you do. Every Pokemon starts with a Random Number Generated IV list, or RNG. It then figures in 3 stats from your parent Pokemon. It is possible to get lucky and have a great IV from the RNG.

To get great IV Pokemon takes some time. I breed 30 Pokemon and then check their IVs. I take the best Male and the best Female and rebreed them. I then check those and find the best Male and best Female. I compare the 2 best from this batch to my best from the last batch. I do this until I am happy with the results. It could take 1 round or it could take 100 rounds. It is all on how dedicated you are to getting what you believe is the best.

[Slizer107]

So would it be posible to get 7 in everything and 14 hp?

[BugCatcher6]

So would it be posible to get 7 in everything and 14 hp?

It is possible, but that has nothing to do with the IVs. It is more geared to what Nature the Pokemon is. A Pokemon with Adamant Nature will have a higher looking attack stat, while it's special attack would be lower.

[Slizer107]

You no what im starting to get it, so the higher the Ivs the stronger the pokemon is, but it wont show in stats.

[BugCatcher6]

You no what im starting to get it, so the higher the Ivs the stronger the pokemon is, but it wont show in stats.


IVs show in the stats, but only as you level up.

Here is an example.
An Eevee with a neutral nature, meaning it receives no gain or no loss in any stat.

At level 100
Attack with 0 IVs would be 115 Attack points.
Attack with 31 IVs would be 146 Attack points.

That is whopping 31 points of extra attack power.

Now lets do the same thing, but at level 1.
Attack with 0 IVs would be 6 Attack points.
Attack with 31 IVs would be 6 Attack points.

No difference, but one Pokemon has 0 IVs and the other had 31 IVs. That is why you can't go by the stats of a Pokemon at level 1. You truly don't get an understanding of the Pokemon's IV until around level 50.

You can find out earlier, but you have to record the growth of your Pokemon from level 1 to level 2 to level 3 and so on. Most times you can find the exact IVs by level 24 doing it this way. That takes an entirely different calculator and alot of Rare Candy and soft resetting.


Also one side note, I don't want to overload you on information. You can't find the proper IVs without knowing your Pokemons EVs, so unless you kept track of every Pokemon your Pokemon battled, you won't know this. That is why breeding and taking a level 1 Pokemon into a level 100 wi-fi battle is the ideal way to calculate your IVs. It will always have 0 EVs if it just hatched.

[Jota]

if you wanna look i really good info...plus the calculator...click the banner of buzz....

[Slizer107]

Ive got a male chimchar with

Hp 31 Attk 22 Def 14 Sp. Atk 16 Sp. Def 31 Speed 31

Is this good?

[Jota]

yes...you even dont have to ask...

if you see and one of your pokemon have at least one stat in 31 and the other around 15...you can easily know that you have a great pokemon.....

now use that chimchar as one of the parent...

[Slizer107]

I am now ive got hatch a femal chimchar, if i get more than 1 ill check ivs. If i get one i wont check lol.

[Dr. Narnad]

As long as this a non-trained pokemon, meaning you checked the IVs with it either being caught directly from nature or you had it hatched at level 1 and then checked. If you don't take into account the EVs from battling then the IV numbers will look inflated from what they actually are.

[Slizer107]

Well my chimchars dont have any ivs they never battled lol, i got so far dont confse me by the way thanks for earlyer.

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GETTING BETTER AT IV TRAINING =)

[Jota]

for example my recently breed pokemon were some quirky shieldon...

they have 15 in all their stat except for defense...25...i think is a really decent pokemon

[Slizer107]

So getting 2 31 and most all higher than 15 except for deffence (14) is rlly lucky?

[Jota]

well like narnad said......it depend on their nature....chimchars dont have a good defense atfer all...

but kind of...

i always focus in medium iv....i mean i try to get a pokemon with all in....good in every posible way...

but that chimchar is awesome...

[BugCatcher6]

Those IVs are from a Chimchar that never fought another Pokemon? If so then yes that is good IVs. You get EVs from fighting Pokemon and that can make your IVs higher then they are.

[Slizer107]

How do you check Evs? by the way i teasted this with level 100 chimchar on wifi like i was told.

[Viscosity]

How do you check Evs? by the way i teasted this with level 100 chimchar on wifi like i was told.

There's no real way to check for EV's except to keep track of all the pkmn you've battled with your Chimchar.
IV's are the only ones you can use a calculator (http://user.pa.net/%7Ercade/zcalc.htm) for.

[Slizer107]

Now that ive got my male breeder im going crazy with summin else


FEMALE CHIMCHARS ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ALL MY EGGS ARE MALE =(

[soccergurl22]

Buzz's guides are awesome but here is one for good trainers to battle. I think they make the training quicker. But if you defeat the elite four so many times I think their pokemon may evolve and not give the same evs. Any way here you go: http://www.arkeis.com/evs.htm

Hope I helped.:mrgreen:

[Viscosity]

Now that ive got my male breeder im going crazy with summin else


FEMALE CHIMCHARS ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ALL MY EGGS ARE MALE =(

Chimchars only have a 12% chance of being born female. So yeah, it kind of sucks if you really want a girl.

[BugCatcher6]

Buzz's guides are awesome but here is one for good trainers to battle. I think they make the training quicker. But if you defeat the elite four so many times I think their pokemon may evolve and not give the same evs. Any way here you go: http://www.arkeis.com/evs.htm

Hope I helped.:mrgreen:

I have commented on this before to. I was making a Vs. Seeker EV guide, but ran into trouble with Pokemon changing after I beat the Elite 4 so many times. So if I made the guide at a fully evolved and high level Pokemon and someone else goes and that is not correct, that will make my guide look bad. So I have a basic list of Vs. Seeker trainers and I just go and test them out before I EV train.

[soccergurl22]

Ya me too. I always save my game before just to be safe. And I forgot. Some of the trainers have the wrong location in there so just pm me if you have trouble finding them.:mrgreen:

[razorbeam]

Now that ive got my male breeder im going crazy with summin else


FEMALE CHIMCHARS ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ALL MY EGGS ARE MALE =(

hatch your eggs at Floaroma , you have a better chance of getting a female.
that's what i do now, when i need a female.

[Katai]

So to gain EVs you basically battle and defeat certain wild pokemon right?

[BugCatcher6]

hatch your eggs at Floaroma , you have a better chance of getting a female.
that's what i do now, when i need a female.

That Floaroma thing for hatching females, is false. I have hatched males there repeatedly.

[Slizer107]

hatch your eggs at Floaroma , you have a better chance of getting a female.
that's what i do now, when i need a female.

Wow rlly is that true cos if it is wow lol.

Im ev training my croconaw in deffence and its not going up in a stat level help.

[BugCatcher6]

Im ev training my croconaw in deffence and its not going up in a stat level help.

It won't show the extra Defense until you level up, but you won't see the extra stats all at one time. It may add an extra 1 point each level. The higher your level the more noticeable the change. Trust me though they are there.

[Slizer107]

Would breeding my good chimchar with good ditto work?

[BugCatcher6]

Would breeding my good chimchar with good ditto work?

For producing more Chimchars yes. IVs are calculated from both parents. I know this has been said about 100 times threw out this thread and others, really read the So you want to be a Master Breeder guide. It tells you how IVs are figured out between 2 parents. It shows you examples. I thought I simplified the breeding process as much as possible in my guide. I could give you the actual information you will find on other sites.


The IVs can then be calculated as follows:

If the stat is hindered by the Pokémon’s nature:

IV = ceil(Stat * 10 / 9) – (2 * Base + Num) if Stat is not divisible by 9. If Stat is divisible by 9, then, unfortunately, the IV can be one of two numbers: either the one calculated here, or 1 more than that.

If the stat is boosted by the Pokémon’s nature:

IV = ceil(Stat * 10 / 11) – (2 * Base + Num)

If the stat is unaffected by the Pokémon’s nature:

IV = Stat – (2 * Base + Num)


How the game provides IVs to an egg

Before we start our breeding guide, you need to be informed of how exactly the game assigns the IVs to a baby. This actually differs from game to game.


1. IV Breeding in EDP

The IVs for the baby are first created at random. Then, a random IV from either parent is inherited to the baby. Then, any random IV except an HP IV is selected from either parent and is passed to the baby. Finally, any random IV except an HP or Defense IV is selected from either parent and passed to the baby. These three random IVs may overlap, that is, the same random IV can be chosen to be inherited in the second, or third, IV transfer.

Let's give an example:

Parent A has the following IVs: 21, 7, 26, 15, 4, 10.
Parent B has the following IVs: 5, 3, 16, 30, 28, 20.
(These, and all IV sets that will be listed, are written in the following order: HP IV, Attack IV, Defense IV, Special Attack IV, Special Defense IV, and Speed IV.)

First, the baby's IVs are generated at random: 18, 0, 9, 14, 11, 27.

Then a parent's random IV is chosen, and passed to the baby. Suppose Parent A's Speed IV is chosen first. So now the baby's IVs are: 18, 0, 9, 14, 11, 10.

Then a parent's random IV (other than an HP IV) is chosen, and passed to the baby. Suppose Parent A's Defense IV is chosen.
So now the baby's IVs are: 18, 0, 26, 14, 11, 10.

Finally, a parent's random IV (other than an HP or a Defense IV) is chosen, and inherited to the baby. Suppose Parent B's Special Attack IV is chosen. And the baby's IVs thus become: 18, 0, 26, 30, 11, 10.

Note that the amount of IVs passed from the parents is not always 3, for the following two reasons. Firstly, the random baby IVs created at the start might match some of the IVs of the parents, which would seem as if the baby got passed more than 3 IVs. Secondly, two or three of the IVs passed to the baby might be in the same stat, which would seem as if the baby got passed less than 3 IVs.

This means that the baby will always inherit between 1 and 6 IVs from the parents. The chances are as follows:

1 IV: 2.44% chance
2 IVs: 34.41% chance
3 IVs: 53.01% chance
4 IVs: 9.55% chance
5 IVs: 0.58% chance
6 IVs: 0.01% chance

The majority of eggs (about 8 out of 9 eggs) will have 2 or 3 IVs transferred from the parents.

HP and Defense IVs are harder to inherit from the parents than the other IVs. This is different from the other games (see RSFRLG IV breeding), where each IV has the same percentage of being transferred to the baby (16.67%). The percentages for Emerald (and DP) are as follows (considering also the fact that the random IVs generated for the baby can end up to be the same as that of one of the parent's IVs):

HP: 8.02% chance of being inherited
Atk: 19.55% chance of being inherited
Def: 13.78% chance of being inherited
SpAtk: 19.55% chance of being inherited
SpDef: 19.55% chance of being inherited
Speed: 19.55% chance of being inherited

This means that in EDP, the Attack, Speed, Special Attack and Special Defense IVs have a better probability of being passed to the baby than in RSFRLG, while the HP and Defense IVs have a worse probability of being passed to the baby than in RSFRLG.

SUMMARY: Emerald, Diamond and Pearl
1. The baby’s IVs are created at random.
2. Then a random IV is passed from one of the parents to the baby. The previous IV is overwritten.
3. Another random IV from Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed is passed from one of the parents to the baby. The previous IV is overwritten.
4. Finally, another random IV from Attack, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed is passed from one of the parents to the baby. The previous IV is overwritten.

SECTION „A“: ONE FLAWLESS IV

31/x/x/x/x/x (flawless HP)
31/x/x/x/x/x + 31/x/x/x/x/x = 37/192 = 19.27083333% = 1:6
31/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 21/192 = 10.9375% = 1:10
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 5/192 = 2.604166667% = 1:39

x/31/x/x/x/x (flawless attack)
x/31/x/x/x/x + x/31/x/x/x/x = 99/192 = 51.5625% = 1:2
x/31/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 51/192 = 26.5625% = 1:4
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 3/192 = 1.5625% = 1:64

x/x/31/x/x/x (flawless defense)
x/x/31/x/x/x + x/x/31/x/x/x = 68/192 = 35.41666667% = 1:3
x/x/31/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 36/192 = 18.75% = 1:6
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 4/192 = 2.083333333% = 1:48

x/x/x/31/x/x (flawless sp.attack)
x/x/x/31/x/x + x/x/x/31/x/x = 99/192 = 51.5625% = 1:2
x/x/x/31/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 51/192 = 26.5625% = 1:4
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 3/192 = 1.5625% = 1:64

x/x/x/x/31/x (flawless sp.defense)
x/x/x/x/31/x + x/x/x/x/31/x = 99/192 = 51.5625% = 1:2
x/x/x/x/31/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 51/192 = 26.5625% = 1:4
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 3/192 = 1.5625% = 1:64

x/x/x/x/x/31 (flawless speed)
x/x/x/x/x/31 + x/x/x/x/x/31 = 99/192 = 51.5625% = 1:2
x/x/x/x/x/31 + x/x/x/x/x/x = 51/192 = 26.5625% = 1:4
x/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 3/192 = 1.5625% = 1:64

[Slizer107]

The chimchar (now a moneferno i was getting ivs in def) has got 31 in Special deffence & 31 HP

So here goes his state (when he was a chimchar)

All the following are in this order ,HP,ATTK,DEF,SPECIAL ATTK,SPECIAL DEFFENCE

31/22/14/16/31/23

Thats without Evs added.

[spursdude2]

you need evs to IV calculate i had 4 IV's with 31 when i didn't put in my EVs

[Slizer107]

But spurs it had never battled lol

[spursdude2]

The chimchar (now a moneferno i was getting ivs in def) has got 31 in Special deffence & 31 HP

So here goes his state (when he was a chimchar)

All the following are in this order ,HP,ATTK,DEF,SPECIAL ATTK,SPECIAL DEFFENCE

31/22/14/16/31/23

Thats without Evs added.


this! You said you did not say the EVs!

what level is it?

[Slizer107]

Well i tested it using level 100 wifi battle, and it was level 1 now its a monerferno =)

[spursdude2]

what are its stats and what are its EVs? i will test it myself!

i'll be on wifi for a IV battle

[Slizer107]

Plz only tell me slight changes cos i think ive done well. Oh w8 you cant its an moneferno now soz, this was its stats

At level 100
Hp:260
Attk:143
Def:96
Sp.Attk:137
Sp.Def:124
Speed:165

Soz this is best i can do.

[spursdude2]

lets have a look at it!

[Slizer107]

I cant do any better than that.

[spursdude2]

ok but you edited! was them the stats when it was a chimchar?

[razorbeam]

So to gain EVs you basically battle and defeat certain wild pokemon right?

yes, you got it.

[Slizer107]

Not completely but im getting better.

[spursdude2]

was the monferno a chimchar when you got those stats???

[belnumcree]

That Floaroma thing for hatching females, is false. I have hatched males there repeatedly.

I've tried it too. I think I hatched 10 last night and everyone of them male. :(

I think you're just lucky Razorbeam :-D

[Slizer107]

Well floaram is worth a shot

[spursdude2]

Those IVs are AMAZING! 3 31s!

[razorbeam]

I've tried it too. I think I hatched 10 last night and everyone of them male. :(

I think you're just lucky Razorbeam :-D

i must be then. too bad, i had given away my 2 female chimchars. i will try it again. i'll let you guys know the result tomorrow.

[Slizer107]

KK m8 hope u get 1

I Got A Female Chimchar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[razorbeam]

yup, i proved it does work. Female Chimchars only have 12.5% chance rate of appearing.
After 8 eggs hatched in Floaroma, i got a female.
i see that you hatched one female too, slizer. then we dont need to trade. but i'll keep this female for future use. ^_^

[BugCatcher6]

yup, i proved it does work. Female Chimchars only have 12.5% chance rate of appearing.
After 8 eggs hatched in Floaroma, i got a female.
i see that you hatched one female too, slizer. then we dont need to trade. but i'll keep this female for future use. ^_^

1 out of 8 is better then 12.5%, but not enough to say thet Floaroma Town helps with getting female Pokemon. I thought in your first post you meant all that hatched was female Pokemon. Skorupi have a 50% chance to be female or male and I was in Floaroma Town and out of 30 Pokemon, 6 were female. Way less then 50%.

[razorbeam]

1 out of 8 is better then 12.5%, but not enough to say thet Floaroma Town helps with getting female Pokemon. I thought in your first post you meant all that hatched was female Pokemon. Skorupi have a 50% chance to be female or male and I was in Floaroma Town and out of 30 Pokemon, 6 were female. Way less then 50%.

wow, that must be really tough luck you got getting a female. :(

[Slizer107]

Depending on what razor said to me, after my battle yesterday i need to put together an shopping list, plus im going to ev train now.