Reputation Kindness

[BugCatcher6]

This is kinda linked to the thread nettie did about We Need to Be Polite. (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=2918)
I noticed that we have alot of questions being asked on this site, duh I know but it is true he-he. So when someone answers your questions, why is there very little reward going to those people that answered? That is what the reputation button is for. I don't mean if you are asking what Pokemon should I breed and someone answers Buneary, that is not something that requires reputation points. I have a thread in my farm Ask the Stable Master. I have answered tons of questions there. I have received a few thank yous and 1 Reputation comment. I am not saying run off to my thread and give me Reputation points. I have alot already, but I want to see the others that do so much to help people get their deserved points. I have 171 reputation points, the person in second place with the most reputation points is belnumree with 62. I don't understand how he does not have more. He is one of the most active members in answer questions. Nak is in third place with 47 points, Nak does a ton for this site. I really don't see why these 2 members and countless others don't get more Reputation points. I know they get tons of PM asking them questions which they answer.

We really need to stop the PM's out of the blue asking for help. Put them in the forum and let those people get their Reputation points they deserve. I am not saying that PMing questions is bad, I get questions from friends and I enjoy it, but it is the people that send you a PM that you have no clue who they are.

Be kind to those that help you. I dare you to push the button.

[nana nettie]

Very well said Buzz :)
My problem, when I want to give a rep point, I need to spread the points......I'm sorry, but after spending at least an hour to give a rep, I have no luck...Maybe other people are having the same problem as I am. I'd love to give points, but only if I feel that they deserve it. I honestly find myself giving a silly point, just to give that rep that is deserving...

[BugCatcher6]

I can understand that. Most threads though receive about 10 post giving answers, you could give points to all that answered and helped. I am talking about the members that have 25 different threads asking for help. I wonder if the spreading the points around may be to high. I think it is 10 people before giving to the same member again.

[Taterbud]

I can understand that. Most threads though receive about 10 post giving answers, you could give points to all that answered and helped. I am talking about the members that have 25 different threads asking for help. I wonder if the spreading the points around may be to high. I think it is 10 people before giving to the same member again.

Ouch, no wonder It keeps telling me to spread the points. I can't help it if the same people are the ones that are helping out. Couldn't you change it to 5? And I would just like to thank those that have given me rep points.

[Nak]

Bravo, Buzz. Thank you to those who have given me rep points. =) Funny though, I get more rep pts for wise cracks rather than what I provide in my Nursery, feedback, mini-games (the Vending Machine and ^>v games) and events like Secret Santa. Don't get me wrong, keep 'em coming. But what I'm saying is, give rep to posts that have earned it. Like the So You Want to be a Master Breeder thread. That alone should have been Buzz's 171 pts. So please give points when members have earned it. :)

[Charon]

As previous people have said though, its quite hard to 'spread the points around' enough to give some of the people who've helped you the rep they deserve :sad:

[BugCatcher6]

@taterbud That is up to Steve and I think it is at 10 to keep people from giving so many lame ones.

@Nak I really never started doing any of this to get rep points. I don't like receiving them for comical remarks either. I also don't understand how you don't get more for your farm and your contest/games.


My whole complaint is how can I have so many points, when there are tons of people that help others on this site. Taterbud should have tons for her Shiny and a Movie, I love the title for that. You would think a person giving away shiny Pokemon for just coming up with a title to a movie would have tons of points. To me someone that has games or contest going should get alot of points, games/contest/tournaments are not something easy to throw together and if the rewards are huge, come on there should be some reputation in that.

I have seen tournaments that offer nothing as a reward, you would think the ones that offer a reward would get some points as well.

I also see alot of people that give points, but don't have any power to give. That is weird to me, but I know why that is. That person only post to ask questions. If that person helped out other people that would increase their reputation as well.

I started on this site to get free Pokemon and get questions I had answered. Something changed when I saw how nice and friendly everyone was here. I have evolved into the BugCatcher and I look to help people and not sit back and soak up the help. I know it is easy to have others give you the answers, but eventually people take notice to this. I cannot say honestly what changed my personality of getting free Pokemon and having someone else find my answers.

If I can change, then I have hope for others.

[Taterbud]

That's so sweet Buzz, thankyou, but I have recieved a couple of reps from my game.:wink: And I think I understand why Steve keeps it at ten, but it still is a little irritating when that little sign pops up.:rolleyes:

[toys4life]

@ Nana - I know what you mean I have a hard time spreading the Rep around just to give the real rep point I want to give

@ Nak - I'm guilty of the witty comment rep points...I guess the times that I think about it the most are when I'm rolling on the ground laughing or when someone says something really witty. (I.E. Nak responding to celph "smelling" something or Buzz's DS Digestion imagery)

Kracks me up every time!!!

[BugCatcher6]

@ Nana - I know what you mean I have a hard time spreading the Rep around just to give the real rep point I want to give

@ Nak - I'm guilty of the witty comment rep points...I guess the times that I think about it the most are when I'm rolling on the ground laughing or when someone says something really witty. (I.E. Nak responding to celph "smelling" something or Buzz's DS Digestion imagery)

Kracks me up every time!!!

Well I am not saying that the points for witty comments is not welcomed, I do it myself. Just sometimes I think man I got a rep point for saying about a dog and a stylist, but I went into super detail on breeding and got nothing.

Which my breeding guide is my number one source of rep points. I just wish alot more people would read it. I think it would cut down questions by half. I know it is big and bulky, but I would rather see a question asking your guide says this, can you explain. That question I would love to have. Not only does it give me a chance to show my knowledge again, but it shows someone actually was reading my guide.

[Nak]

@ Joby: Oh yeah, lol. That's ok. That was my best joke, and honestly I was hoping for rep on that ;) Lol

BUT!!! It's sad how HMTKSteve, the creator of Pokefarm is trailing waaaay behind with rep. =(

[Cherkat]

Buzz quote - I also see alot of people that give points, but don't have any power to give. That is weird to me, but I know why that is. That person only post to ask questions. If that person helped out other people that would increase their reputation as well.

My reply - I guess you could be referring to me as I liberally dole out reputation but probably have zero power to do so.

Buzz quote - I started on this site to get free Pokemon and get questions I had answered. Something changed when I saw how nice and friendly everyone was here. I have evolved into the BugCatcher and I look to help people and not sit back and soak up the help. I know it is easy to have others give you the answers, but eventually people take notice to this. I cannot say honestly what changed my personality of getting free Pokemon and having someone else find my answers.

My reply - I came to pokefarm 8/07, and have enjoyed the site tremendously. I am one of the people that hop on for free pokemon. Not proud of it, just a fact. I try to be unobtrusive by being polite and to the point. I do not think that I will ever be a contributing credit to pokefarm but not all people that frequent forums, are.

[toys4life]

Well I am not saying that the points for witty comments is not welcomed, I do it myself. Just sometimes I think man I got a rep point for saying about a dog and a stylist, but I went into super detail on breeding and got nothing.

Which my breeding guide is my number one source of rep points. I just wish alot more people would read it. I think it would cut down questions by half. I know it is big and bulky, but I would rather see a question asking your guide says this, can you explain. That question I would love to have. Not only does it give me a chance to show my knowledge again, but it shows someone actually was reading my guide.

I do believe I have given you rep points for both of those things and like Nana said sometimes it's hard to give the rep points to the people that deserve them...but I will try harder :-D

[Nak]

Thanks a lot, Buzz. Now I'm on a rep-giving frenzy and I can't resume moderating because of it. Lol XD

[cisco]

I would of but, I don't know how to give a Reputation :D

[Nak]

I would of but, I don't know how to give a Reputation :DClick on the Scale icon on the upper-right corner of the post. Test it out with this post ;) lol XD

[cisco]

Click on the Scale icon on the upper-right corner of the post. Test it out with this post ;) lol XD

Nah I see it, thank you Nak. I would think of a way to repay you, not sure how though, hmm. xD

[Nak]

Wow, apparently I've given "too much reputation points in the last 24 hours." So now I have to "wait and try again later." lol XD ._.

[cisco]

Wow, apparently I've given "too much reputation points in the last 24 hours." So now I have to "wait and try again later." lol XD ._.

- Points and laughs - Haha xD.

[puffdaddy]

I know this might be a bit random (or not) but you could also be nice by spending about a second of your life to feed the pokeplushies of the people who have them. ( You don't have to, but it would be nice.) :-D

[BugCatcher6]

Wow so much new info here, so I will start with this.

@puffdaddy there is a thread somewhere that WestCoastNinja started for people to post in and get their PokePlushies some rare candy. I think the major thing is the people for PokePlushies has made it so annoying to give anyone a click for rare candy.

@everyone else.

I want to state that I did not have anyone person in mind when I wrote this thread. I wanted to get the use of reputation points back into the open for people to see again.

The quote about people just wanting free Pokemon, you guys keep my farm and others going. It was not a negative comment. I also stated about those that only ask questions and and never help answer questions. I took this from the complaints I get in PMs. Complaints about why don't my reputation points count. Well I look back at these members Started Threads and their Post, and the bulk of them only ask questions and say oh thanks. They are not active with anything else. It is hard to get a reputation point gave to you when you only ask questions. I have never thought hey that question was so awesome that I need to give that member a reputation boost. Please don't think I am hating anyone for this. I understand time constraints. Some people have time to look at every thread and reply, others have limited time and cannot. There is no shame in leading a busy life.

@Cherkat I am sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable. I never meant to. You are my most loyal customer for my Minor Market Pokemon. You are also one of the most honorable members of PokeFarm. You have been here I think since before the doors open. Farming takes a good chunk of time and I understand not all people can breed for move-sets, natures, and IVs. That is what keeps farms like mine running. I love trading with you, please don't stop because of my poor choice of words.

[puffdaddy]

Oops :oops: I forgot about that.

[BugCatcher6]

Oops :oops: I forgot about that.

No problem. I wonder if I should make it sticky?

[Cherkat]

@Cherkat I am sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable. I never meant to. You are my most loyal customer for my Minor Market Pokemon. You are also one of the most honorable members of PokeFarm. You have been here I think since before the doors open. Farming takes a good chunk of time and I understand not all people can breed for move-sets, natures, and IVs. That is what keeps farms like mine running. I love trading with you, please don't stop because of my poor choice of words.[/QUOTE]

Buzz - I think that someone hit me with the ultra sensitive stick today. I also love our trades and all of the trades here on Pokefarm. I have a separate box and 1/2 for all of my pokefarm trades. They hold a special place in my heart as do quite a few of the members :D Thank you for your kind words.

[puffdaddy]

I have also recieved very generous trades for one of my farm pokemon, and I hope to continue making good pokemon for the whole of pokefarm. :D

[HMTKSteve]

Buzz is so far ahead because I gave him rep when admins were set at ten points per rep. I did this to kick start things figuring Buzz would give out rep to others in return.

[BugCatcher6]

Buzz is so far ahead because I gave him rep when admins were set at ten points per rep. I did this to kick start things figuring Buzz would give out rep to others in return.

Oh man my secret is out. I got alot of rep points back when Steve had the Administrators set at 10 points. But hey I give out alot of points and I would give more if it was not for the spreading it around. I don't think I have to spread them around anymore, but I have not tested that yet.

Hey I still get tons gave to me from others. Plus you took some from me at one time for being rude. I thought I was being funny. Someone commented about having links to the main site on the calendar or whatever and I said yeah it sucks that we have to click the little banner in the upper left hand corner to go to the main site.

Come on that is funny.

[joinred1127]

Ha... Ha... :rolleyes: yeah ... funny...

Also if you have never gotten rep points can you still see that you have no points in your control panel, because I can't. I also was one of the members from when the site originally started before we switched over to the new forum server; if that helps solve the problem.
I hear people telling people where to go to see their rep points but I can never find the place based on their instructions.

[Taterbud]

Hey I still get tons gave to me from others. Plus you took some from me at one time for being rude. I thought I was being funny. Someone commented about having links to the main site on the calendar or whatever and I said yeah it sucks that we have to click the little banner in the upper left hand corner to go to the main site.

Come on that is funny.
Oh yeah, I remember reading that, I thought it was hilarious.:lol: That was when none of us really knew what the rep was for or how we got it.:)

[razorbeam]

Very well said Buzz :)
My problem, when I want to give a rep point, I need to spread the points......I'm sorry, but after spending at least an hour to give a rep, I have no luck...Maybe other people are having the same problem as I am. I'd love to give points, but only if I feel that they deserve it. I honestly find myself giving a silly point, just to give that rep that is deserving...

yup, same thing. does not allow me to give a rep points to the same person. oh well.

[belnumcree]

Thanks Buzz.

I must say, the spreading some around can get irritating. But I can also see the reasoning. I like to give rep points for anything which is helpful (even if I already knew the answer), funny (If I get a laugh it's well worth the rep point), or just a nice addition to the site. ;)

[BugCatcher6]

Yeah I give rep points to people that help other people.

[Gamegeezer]

Hmmmm.............do i smell an attempt to increase one's reputation beyond all others? :lol: J/k, very well mentioned Buzz, i probably should go back and rep those who've been nice enough to answer my questions. :-D

[BugCatcher6]

No I am being serious. If it is a post that I think the person answering the question will not get any points for answering I give them points and let them know it was awesome they helped.

[nagib_253]

there should be some rep points for the persons that makes question that everyone has that could stop making more thread that are unnesarely right??

[Gamegeezer]

I know sillyz, lol. Jeebus, i understand where you were going with it, i just found it funny how you used yourself as an example, is all. But yeah, i can admit, i've forgotten to give credit to a lot of people on this place for some really great answers. If i see em, i'll be sure to rectify my stupidity. :)

[nagib_253]

yeah be sure to give me some rep points gamegeezer please hehe i am joking
yeah i just gave some rep points for people that have answer other people question or has help me ..

[Nak]

yeah be sure to give me some rep points gamegeezer please hehe i am joking
yeah i just gave some rep points for people that have answer other people question or has help me ..How come I didn't get any? lol jk :)

[nagib_253]

oh sorry nak i forgot you can check now i gave you one:D
but you know i always thank you when you help me in something

[Nak]

oh sorry nak i forgot you can check now i gave you one:D
but you know i always thank you when you help me in somethingLol, I was just kidding Nagib. :D But thank you, you're always very nice. :-D

[Brainhost]

You must spread some more Reputation around before giving it to BugCatcher6 again.
Hilarious! I just clicked the reputation button above a post of BugCatcher6 and that message popped up! I couldn't help but laugh!
I guess it's for good means though. It will help equalizing the amount of reputation between, for instance, the numbers 1 and 2 on the list.

[Gamegeezer]

I see that screen all too often. :lol: So i know the feeling.

[nana nettie]

I just got one that told me I had spread enough in 24 hours.....I'm trying to cover all the helpful info I've gotten and it tells me enough......

[Nak]

I just got one that told me I had spread enough in 24 hours.....I'm trying to cover all the helpful info I've gotten and it tells me enough......It sucks, I know. =(

[Viscosity]

Nana Nettie is TOO thankful! :-P

[Korath]

I cannot speak for Steve, but I do know on another Forum where he was admin there was....a LOT of fallout over reputation, espesially when changes were made. OMG was there Fallout. It us currently set at 10, there, as well. I currently have 27,481 rep points there, and some 3000+posts recorded..and that is only from the product forums. The general talk and chit chat forums do not add to the totals. There was a LOT of fallout with that change, too. Heh. I had well over 10k at the time. Afterwards, there was a mini-mass exodus..and most of the problems went with them. So, its set as it needs to be, i think. Although, there is nowhere as much drama about the subject here as there was there.

As i understand it, though, when a poster leaves positive rep for another, the amount of points the person recieves is based on the current rep AND the number of posts of the person leaving it. This is a new forum, so the numbers will not be very high, for a while anyway. Nak and Bugcatcher have the ability to leave the most points, having 3k posts or so apiece.

[BugCatcher6]

I was not aware I was at the 3k post mark yet. I know my reputation level combined with my post has me dishing out the most rep points to those I give to, but I think Nak has just tied me in points to give out. Her post count is much higher then mine. Also I no longer have to wait between giving points, but I don't just give points for the sake of giving. You have to earn my vote.

[Nak]

Yup, Buzz and I both hand out 4 pts. apiece now. Buzz will be handing out 5 pts. once his post count reaches 3,000.

[nana nettie]

Nana Nettie is TOO thankful! :-P

Thanks :-D I think :oops:

[HMTKSteve]

Korath is correct. We had way too much drama associated with the rep system on that other forum. We had even more drama when one of the company men directed me to alter the way post counts work.

See, because it was a forum for a game company there was a title system in place so every few hundred posts you got a new title. This led to a mini-game on site where people would post nonsense just to inflate their post count and get the next title.

We turned off post counting in some areas and the meta-gamers noticed right away and started asking if there was a problem with the board software. We then refigured post counts based only on forums where posts were still counted and all heck broke loose! Members with 20,000 posts suddenly only had 2,000.

Yeah... good times!

[Gamegeezer]

I was on a website that had a similar mechanic, before this one. And i have to say, that isn't too bad of an idea. It actually helps show who puts down some real quality posts in places that matter. And the chat box or spam thread didn't count toward anyones post count. Even though pokefarm hasn't come across a post count issue yet, there is always that group of individuals who eventually comes in and ruins it for everyone. Sadly to say.

[HMTKSteve]

Do not be surprised if you log on one day and see posts counts gone.

[Gamegeezer]

Yeah, i won't be surprised, especially with all the youth here, including myself. This place is most likely going to run into those post-a-holics. But if you got rid of post count, it wouldn't bother me a bit. Perhaps the weight of post counts to some, would shift over to rep points. Now that i think about it, either way, there's always something for someone to try and be #1 at, when it's highly unnecessary. jeez, my mind has done circles on this topic, i think it's time i gave it a rest. @_@ *brain overloads*

[HMTKSteve]

I'm so happy that you will not be surprised :)

[Taterbud]

I'm so happy that you will not be surprised :)

Okay, apparently by "one day" you meant today.:rolleyes::lol:

[HMTKSteve]

Well, it came up and the oppurtunity was there.

[cowmoo83]

I dont think it really matters, as long as you still become a senior member at 100.:D

[BugCatcher6]

What does junior member, member, or senior member mean for anything? The only titles that should be on here is titles for the Gym Leaders. I would also make titles for those with a forum farm, and they could choose between titles if they received more then one. Then also a title for badge holders, again with some type of option to select a title. Most sites had titles based on post count and this site had nothing after 100 post. Now there is no post count and really what is there then? Someone creating a new account should get senior member then as soon as they start, no post count to show if they have even posted before. A site with no titles gives members very little to shoot for in terms of anything. Why start a farm, it takes alot of time and headache, what is the reward? Why battle the Gyms, for some little icons by your name?

Don't get me wrong, post count means nothing to me, but it did show how active I was. Our titles or information for reputation points remain hidden unless you mouse over them. Just be nice for those that don't farm or battle to have an option to earn a title.

[Brainhost]

If I am understanding this correctly, you are assuming that without a costum title, there would be little to shoot for, and people only do things for post count and title or reputation? I must have misunderstood your post, because I can't really understand why you would say such a thing. I'm sorry, if so. I do want to express on this though:


Why start a farm, it takes alot of time and headache, what is the reward? Why battle the Gyms, for some little icons by your name?
The reward is achieving something. Even if it's not shown by icons, reputation or titles or whatever, it's still a feat and you can be satisfied with yourself for doing such. Also, people do these things to gain experience, and that is a great thing. Experience in Pokémon might not help you in anything in the future, but the type of things you learn can be helpful in learning to achieve certain goals. That's what you are truly doing; They're all skills that will come back to you in some way. To be honest, icons and the like are nice, but they are not nearly the essence of what you have achieved.

[Viscosity]

I think that's what BugCatcher was trying to get at Brainhost. People shouldn't be aiming for a little text or graphic next to their name to feel good, they should be aiming for their own self-fulfillment of committing to something that makes people happy. :)

[Nak]

I think that's what BugCatcher was trying to get at Brainhost. People shouldn't be aiming for a little text or graphic next to their name to feel good, they should be aiming for their own self-fulfillment of committing to something that makes people happy. :)You sound a bit like a humanistic psychologist. :)

[Brainhost]

In that case, I will take back the words of disbelief and hereby, I offer my apologies to you, BugCatcher6.

But I will still support my little preaching (even though it is not to be viewed as an argument against BugCatcher anymore). It is the experience with the achievement that counts, not the recording of it. And if the experience of making people happy feels good to you, that's what you should go for!
Even though icons do show people what you're capable of, still, it can be somewhat misleading. A postcount, especially, shows basically nothing. You might have spammed everything. That's also the reason why cheating to achieve something only means cheating yourself, but that's a whole different story.

[BugCatcher6]

OMG my post was serious. I think titles are something that are cool to get on forums. I think that those that go the extra effort should get rewarded somehow. The fact that you know you did good yourself is not always enough. I help tons of people on here and what is my reward? I got to be the Beacon Gym Leader(with a title), I got my own sub-forum for my farm, I got to be a moderator and then Administrator(titles again), and I get reputation points(again a soft title when moused over). I do none of these things for the titles. I do them because I want to. I got rewarded for all my hard work. I would just like to see others get the same. That is why I pushed for the Boulder Gym Leader to be selected by a tournament. I wanted somebody that knows how to battle. I don't think the Gyms should be a cake walk, if they were why not just give the badge when you activate your account.

It is people that do nothing that complain about titles, post counts, and countless other issues that got changed. I know Steve does not like post counts being a goal, I can understand that that. Alot of people already post just to get their name included in a huge discussion. Next thing if enough of those that get infractions for signature issues start complaining about it we will either lose our signatures or signatures will be allowed to fill one entire page. I have seen it in other forums. In an attempt to keep everyone happen it ends up making the dedicated members unhappy. Does this mean I am unhappy with post counts being removed, no I could care less about post counts. Will this keep junk post down, no I see an increase coming. How can there be posting infractions for double or triple posting if it is not adding to a post count?

I see reputation points being the next thing under fire. People will complain about how they never get any reputation points and it will become such a hot issue that removing them will be the only way to stop the complaining.


Am I upset for the simple reason that post counts, reputation points, and titles effect nothing and yet people complain. Up until about 2 days ago no one has ever said about Nak or I being close to 3,000 post. Someone makes a comment about them and starts a few more people commenting and they are gone. It kinda feels like a slap in the face. Not that they were removed, but does anyone understand the number of post Nak and I posted helping other people or the forum? I can tell you that the bulk of them come from our Gym and Farms, but I know only about 300 post maybe total have been actually for us and the rest go helping others.

I did not even know I was close to 3,000 post until someone else mentioned, so that is how important post count was to me.

[nana nettie]

Thank you Buzz.....I have been trying so hard to be good, that I have been holding back on making posts, but I no longer care. I totally agree with your ranting, oops post.....
I do better at listening and popping in here and there, but do I post just to post? Do I offer help, just to see my name on the thread? No, I do everything because I like to help, or need an answer, or just want to join in on the fun conversation.
I honestly feel that once you start changing things, well where will you stop?

[BugCatcher6]

That was what I was trying to say. With no post count now, there is no reason not to just post everywhere. I felt the post count helped keep an eye on those members who just posted to post. I think we will see a huge increase in post in threads such as help my team for example, post saying wow I like that Pokemon. That has nothing to do with helping thread poster build his team.

[Cherkat]

The only reason I like the junior, senior member, and post count is I might be more inclined to do a dex trade with someone that is seasoned and trusted. I would absolutely trade pokemon with a new member that asked for one but I might not do a dex information trade because I might not get my pokemon back. Does that make sense?

[Viscosity]

Since we're no longer able to view post counts, maybe it would be worth our while to revamp the titles. Right now it's very easy to reach senior member status. Like Bugcatcher suggested, we should change the # of counts related to each level, the # of levels, and the title of each level as well as change what parts of the forum count for posts and which don't.

( @Cherkat: If only there was a way to connect the ## of Wifi trades we make to the forum so it can give us a more accurate indication of who is trustworthy. ^_^ )

[Cherkat]

Viscosity - I would do dex trades with just about anyone on the forum, it's the brand new unseasoned members that I am leery of. WiFi trade information would be helpful. Now back when pokefarm was brand new and I was brand new to Pokefarm, I asked for an information trade to see the Legendary dogs and TaterTot took a chance on me. I knew I was trustworthy but did she? So, I feel kind of bad even making this point. :sad:

[Nak]

My ID Card says:

Times Linked: 1285
Link Battles: Wins - 60 Losses - 13
Link Trades: 1111


That doesn't even count hundreds of IV battles and times I forget to save after battle. :D

[Cherkat]

Nak - I would trade anything with you or give you anything for that matter. I know you are trustworthy personified and a mod to boot. :)

[puffdaddy]

Me too, I traded with her once for the abra and porygon, and boy was I happy with what she traded me.

[Nak]

@ Cherkat and puffdaddy: Heehee, it was nothing... :oops: Thanks! :-D

[HMTKSteve]

So, you guys want the post counts back?

Titles are still in place and your post count still goes up when you post, you just can't see it. I had meant to hide post counts from day one I just kept putting it off.

[Nak]

So, you guys want the post counts back?I'm neutral towards the whole post count thing, but I think the members want an update with the ranks. Really, 30 posts is hardly worth being called a true member for. I can do that in 10 minutes flat. Same with 100 for senior member. Maybe change it to 300 and 1000 respectively. Ranks past that would be good too. That way I'll be motivated to post even with my currently colossal post count. :p

[joinred1127]

I'm so happy that you will not be surprised :)

lol our counts are gone

I just finished breaking out in laughter; before I was like hmm... Steve is probably going to do this… wow where'd the post counts go :confused: :lol:

I think we should assign ranks based on how long the member has been on the site; people who signed up in August when the forum launched should have seniority (and be senior members) over those who came in recently in November or December (junior members) because obviously I myself and others (like Nak who came in September) would know much more about the site than someone who came in last week and just posts a lot.

[BugCatcher6]

So, you guys want the post counts back?

Titles are still in place and your post count still goes up when you post, you just can't see it. I had meant to hide post counts from day one I just kept putting it off.

Like I said post count mean nothing to me. I am just not wanting this to turn into a thing where someone complains enough then that thing gets changed. I would like to see real titles. Someone has a farm and meets certain goals like say those that get their own sub-forum for their farm, then why can't that person have their title changed to their farm name or even to Stable Master. Those that start new farms could get the title Farm Hand. 4 stages of farming or something. Ditto, Farm Hand, Stable Master, Senior Farmer(Main site). I just have not seen any reason to go main site besides the new avatars. I think I may have been the only one asked to go to the main site.

Same with those that earn gym badges. Find a title system for then as well. The gym assistants get titles right? They fill in as needed and in cases like my Gym, there is no assistant.

I can't see taking away something without giving some type of reward system. Yeah post count is not an award, but there has to be some type of goal. My post count was so high because it reflected my goal of helping others. My sub-forum was my reward for being a great farmer. My Gym Leader Position was a reward for many people thinking I would be a great Gym Leader, without ever seeing me battle and also after knowing I have never battled until my first Beacon Gym battle against celph77. They also believed I would be a great Gym Leader after I started out losing to celph77 and WestCoastNinja. I won my third battle against Nak and my 4th against cyndaman. People noticed that my first 5 battles were against 2 current Gym Leaders and 2 former. Out of my first 5 battles I fought 3 members that are now on their way to fighting the Elite 4. cyndaman and celph77 were former Gym Leaders and Nak and WestCoastNinja are current ones. Flippy, Nak, and WestCoastNinja are also on their way to the Elite 4. I pulled no punches when I got to be Gym Leader and I rewarded those who voted for me on just good faith with making their votes turn into fact.

I am not sure what all the stuff about battling had to do with my point in this thread. I know the short answer is there should be some type of rewards. Counter to that is members receive good Pokemon and Gym Badges why is a title so important.

Sorry for the rant, off to get my medication.

[HMTKSteve]

Most of the titles are in the rep system but I get your point.

If someone wants to make up a list of titles I'll add them in. I can also use images for titles too... hint, hint, hint...

[BugCatcher6]

I just feel titles are like Pokemon, you want to get your favorite, but you gotta get them all. I would really like to see a title going with the badges. I wish there was some official way to keep track of all the battles that go on here and see how people are by their record. Hard to keep an honest record. I want to work on away to do this. Tournaments it is easy to see the records. Gym battles as well. But any other battle you need both people to be honest.

[HMTKSteve]

I could hack the code to make your rep title appear when a user title would appear. I also just changed the titles around.

[HMTKSteve]

If you are a Farmer with your own farm on the forums I suggest you look around your UserCP for something new. If you can't find it ask WestCoastNinja because he knows all about it.

[Viscosity]

Ooh, I definitely like the new titles. I'm a Pokemon Trainer Student and I know what a Pokeball is! :D

[HMTKSteve]

I was going to go with "Pokemon Trainer in Training" but it sounded redundant.

[cisco]

Hey I have an Idea for these name thingys that your doing Steve, how about people with all the Badges have 'Pokemon Master' and when the Elite 4 is done, and someone wins, it will say 'Pokemon Champion'. But these are just ideas.

[Gamegeezer]

I'm so happy that you will not be surprised

Lol, your sarcasm is hilarious. :lol: I guess it was good to get rid of them while the idea was still fresh in the air. It probably would have been put off for a long time had we not discussed it so much. And having the posts hidden was a pretty sweet idea, that way everyone is unaware of the post counts, so that way people don't have to just post for absolutely no reason at all, other than to increase their post count.:D

[Brainhost]

The new titles are much more fitting. Also, the fact that the postcount is gone gives me a less biased look at everyone. I think that is certainly a good thing, right? I used to automaticly look at postcounts to see how much I could expect; it's not that I base my actions on that, but it's just something I keep in the back of my mind while talking to them.

I saw there was a small discussion going on about trustworthy traders. Maybe it's an idea to have a subforum in the trade forum that gives people the chance to post tradingfeedback. The person that you traded with creates a thread or posts in the thread (which title should be your forumname) inside that subforum about the quality of the trade(s). Any posts in said thread should be feedbacks on trades done with you.

This might repel people doing schemes in dextrades or give hacked Pokémon; It will go directly to that person's trading-feedback thread and everyone can see that that trader is not as trustworthy.

[HMTKSteve]

There is a plugin I can add to the forums to track trades. It is used on a webmaster forum I frequent to track sales of domains. I will have to find it and install it.

[belnumcree]

This looks to be a great new feature. :-D

Though it will be a long process for me to retro all the great trades I've recieved. :?

It does say that the URL for the trade is required. What do you do in the event of a PM trade?

[HMTKSteve]

This looks to be a great new feature. :-D

Though it will be a long process for me to retro all the great trades I've recieved. :?

It does say that the URL for the trade is required. What do you do in the event of a PM trade?

PM trades are not covered at this time.

[belnumcree]

Would it be ok to put in a url for the general trade thread for the pokemon you recieved?

[HMTKSteve]

Try it out and see.

The feature is limited to only work with threads in the trade/farm areas of the board. This is not a rep system but a way to rate other members (eBay style) in regards to trades.

[cisco]

I like the idea, but a bit confused about the Feeback. :confused:

[spursdude2]

same here! i'm going to trade somone so i can feedback them!

[Brainhost]

Wouw, that was quick. I think a feature on this in the FAQ would be pretty apropriate.

[belnumcree]

Try it out and see.

The feature is limited to only work with threads in the trade/farm areas of the board. This is not a rep system but a way to rate other members (eBay style) in regards to trades.

Then it should work. I'll try it as soon as I can. Alas I've already been told I can't rate anyone else today. :oops: lol :-D

[HMTKSteve]

The goal is for users to be able to figure out who is making the best trades. Get a hacked Pokemon? Give them some negative feedback.

Admins have power to adjust for abuses.

[cisco]

The goal is for users to be able to figure out who is making the best trades. Get a hacked Pokemon? Give them some negative feedback.

Admins have power to adjust for abuses.

Ok, I get it. So if you make a trade with someone, then give then one of those points, the higher it is the better the trader is, but if hacked or ba deal, then the negative points will tell you if this person isn't the best person to trade.

[Cherkat]

Coming in late on the discussion but does it work when you trade with farmers, you rate the farmers trades and they in turn rate your trades?

[Nak]

Coming in late on the discussion but does it work when you trade with farmers, you rate the farmers trades and they in turn rate your trades?I believe so. A farm trade is as good as any other trade, don't you agree? :-D

[Cherkat]

Well, of course. Farm trades are the best. But I guess that the recipient of the farm trade would also get points in the system?

[Nak]

Well, of course. Farm trades are the best. But I guess that the recipient of the farm trade would also get points in the system?As long as the farmer remembers to hand out points, lol. Curse my short-term memory, it has the capacity of a teaspoon. XP

[HMTKSteve]

Yes, the farm areas are also part of this.

[Cherkat]

Ok. I try to give good items along with my farm trades so I was just hoping to get a little positive rating. Since it seems that this will be the barometer by which your trading integrity is based.

[Viscosity]

Wow, I definitely like this new Trade Feedback system! But it makes me wonder who would get neutral trades. It would seem either you get what you want or you don't. ^_^;;

[Dr. Narnad]

Depending on how you look at it, could be neutral if they did the trade/data info but maybe they were 2 hours late or had something come up. This way its not a negative where they are stealing your pokes or giving out hacks but its not positive since they didn't show up on time. Plus you can put a note on it why it was neutral then so others know as well.

[belnumcree]

As long as the farmer remembers to hand out points, lol. Curse my short-term memory, it has the capacity of a teaspoon. XP

From what I've seen today your only allowed to give 3 ratings a day, so it may not be feasible for the farmers to give ratings to the participants of large events.

Though I do understand why these limitations are in place. :-D

[Brainhost]

Might there be a possibility to add the trading feedback overview in your User CP, just like you can view your reputation over there? It would be kind of nice to not having to look up your own feedback through other threads. If that isn't possible, a menu item in the side menu of the User CP would also be nice. Either one or the other. And if it's not possible at all, that's just too bad :D

[Nak]

@ belnumcree: Good point. I told Steve to put restrictions in case of abuse, but I didn't think it'd be that restricted, lol.

@ Brainhost: Steve downloaded the feature from elsewhere, so I'm not too sure if he can weave the feature into the forum program that intricately. But that's just my guess. :p

[Jota]

could someone explein me...how this need system work?

i mean....what do i have to wait for? also wich rank is better the pokemon trainer student or the pokemon trainer?

is there any other rank beside those?

[BugCatcher6]

could someone explein me...how this need system work?

i mean....what do i have to wait for? also wich rank is better the pokemon trainer student or the pokemon trainer?

is there any other rank beside those?

Patience. Your rank will be determined by how active and helpful you are. The longer you are here the higher your title can go. That is all I will say.

For farmers, look at the group memberships. Also if you are not a farmer, challenge the gyms.

[Jota]

ok..i guess i will have to wait...and see...

i think this is better than a post count...

also is you have a trade rank....why dont you guy make like a battle rank... i mean acording to your battle gym record you can deduce their trainer skill and something like that

[Brainhost]

I believe that things would become too competative when such a system would be introduced.
Trading info is there to help check out who is trustworthy, and who is not.
A battle record would give you bragging rights, but only call for provocation and biased treatment of the members.

In a way, gym badges give you bragging rights two, but they don't show you directly how good or bad someone is; it just shows you a person has won a certain battle, not saying if he might also have lost in the process.

[Jota]

maybe...maybe not...

[HMTKSteve]

The three a day limit is for new members. Once your feedback rating reaches a certain level that restriction goes away.

Badges are the bragging rights for battling.

Adding this to your userCP? There is a link to it off of your profile page, It would require a few hours of hacking to put it in the UserCP in such a way as to fit and not look tacked on.

[Jota]

oh about that....i read many public profile

and it say: challange to bet or win forest gym....for example...

but what about if that person actually loose before or just won in second battle...?

like: win coble badge at second try...or i dont know....

[Korath]

OH MY DIALGA!!! MY POST COUNT IS GONE!!! THAT's It. I'm leaving and never coming back until the next time :twisted: ;)

[HMTKSteve]

OH MY DIALGA!!! MY POST COUNT IS GONE!!! THAT's It. I'm leaving and never coming back until the next time :twisted: ;)

Korath, remember the policy we instituted on the "other" board for when people start an "I'm leaving" thread? Well, we have that same policy here.

[Viscosity]

If I am accepting a pokemon from a person's farm, should I feedback as a "buyer" or should I feedback as a "trader?"

[BugCatcher6]

If I am accepting a pokemon from a person's farm, should I feedback as a "buyer" or should I feedback as a "trader?"

I thought that as well and I always put Seller, but I am thinking it should be Trade.

[Viscosity]

I thought that as well and I always put Seller, but I am thinking it should be Trade.

I was doing the opposite, I was thinking trade b/c that's what we're doing, but I'm starting to think we should use buyer/seller since the farms are providing a service.

[BugCatcher6]

I was doing the opposite, I was thinking trade b/c that's what we're doing, but I'm starting to think we should use buyer/seller since the farms are providing a service.


Yeah but we are trading my Pokemon for your Pokemon. Unless I give a Pokemon with no item and your are giving a Pokemon with an item that I demanded as payment for my Pokemon, which I never do. I put down ideas of items I am looking for only because I have people always asking what do you want, so I add items I am looking for to take away the asking. Truth is I am happy with just low end berries. I also get alot of trades that give no items and that is cool as well.