Breeders & Battlers: Class is in session.

[BugCatcher6]

O.K. I have the groups made up. I gave some teachers 2 students and some others only 1. Don't feel that this is because you could not handle more, I had a list made up and as more people joined I adjusted accordingly.


Buzz: 2706 8743 6257 / slizer107: 3823 7004 0744 / spursdude2: 5197 9746 6643
babael: 1160 6656 0190 / nana nettie: 1418 4026 3489 / Nightcrawler_m: 0602 3057 5338 / piichan: 1676 0143 0085
Nak: 1375 4444 7706 / Taterbud: 0215 7269 6821 / Kiwi: 4296 0292 3593
Belnumcree: 2663 9228 2430 / toys4life: 1461 4016 4678 / michael16: 4983 3886 8737 / lordlogan2: 1676 0641 2465
Master: 1461 5168 1939 / Brainhost: 5026 1851 1970 / Trombones13: 2921 5817 5274I am sure everyone is ready to get their first challenge, but not yet. I want the teachers to send a PM to their student(s) and try to find out what their goal is or what style of team they want to build. Students, the best team is not an answer. You must be as detailed as possible when battling, so to start practicing that ability, be as detailed as possible with what style of team you want to build.

I have learned a few things from the Farmer's classes I did before. I allowed alot of slack in the last class, oh I need one more day to finish my project, not happening this time. I will give a project and give a date to finish it by. I am not saying you must stop everything else to do this project, you can build a Pokémon in as little time as an hour, but will it be great, more in likely not. You get out what you put in and I don't expect all the students to be here for the entire 6 Pokemon build.

Also for teachers, if you lose a student and have nobody to teach, I will move a student from another teacher if needed. If you feel that you don't have the time, tell me and I will move your student to another teacher. If you have 2 students now and feel it is to much, we have 3 teachers with only 1 student.

This is for teachers and students. Teachers are not to do all the work. The student is to design and build each Pokemon. Teachers will help with information and ideas. This is not a chance to make a clone.

[nana nettie]

Woo Hoo :D Let the games begin :D
I am so happy that if I weren't at work, I'd be jumping up and down :lol::lol:

Just one last thing, Buzz did you worn Babael before you posted this :wink: :lol:

[Brainhost]

Great! The groups are here.
I'm very excited to see what exactly will go down in the class area's. I guess that will all become clear once we get our first project to work on, though.
I have never actually interected with my teacher before, Master, nor have I seen a lot of posts by him. First things first in that case; Getting to know him! I'm pretty curious about how things will work between us. Not to say it won't work, but I'm just wondering what sort of person you are.
In any case, as you said Nettie, let the 'games' begin! Have a blast, everyone!

[BugCatcher6]

Woo Hoo :D Let the games begin :D
I am so happy that if I weren't at work, I'd be jumping up and down :lol::lol:

Just one last thing, Buzz did you worn Babael before you posted this :wink: :lol:

babael knows. I told her when I told you that I thought you 2 would make a perfect team.

Besides that, this is my project and what I say goes he-he. Joking of course, this event will take effort from everyone to make it fun.

Also something I forgot to mention. The finals for the project is of course a tournament. I had a new idea for a tournament that I kinda made up after seeing the previews for tomorrows Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Cartoon, but that idea will wait.

So big deal about the tournament right? It just shows who did the best in their builds. Well not really. I was thinking of maybe having the teachers in the tournament as well. Top prize could be hmm a legit MYSTRY MEW that I personally obtained at last years Toys R' Us event or maybe a legit TRU MANAPHY from this years Toys R' Us event. I also could add a MOVIE DARKRAI and maybe shinies as the prize. I think the ultimate prize would be beating your teacher, but the Pokemon make nice prizes too.

[Master]

I have never actually interected with my teacher before, Master, nor have I seen a lot of posts by him. First things first in that case; Getting to know him! I'm pretty curious about how things will work between us. Not to say it won't work, but I'm just wondering what sort of person you are.

I don't post as much as I should,I agree with that.And I can get alnog with pretty much anyone.

[Brainhost]

Okay, sounds great.
I have just sent you the introduction PM, so if you'll read that you should be pretty much well informed on everything I have planned for builds and such, and my battling style is also described in that very same PM, as is my personality, which you probably will be able to detect from the conversations we will have on the projects.
Have a good one, I'm off to bed!

[BugCatcher6]

So as far as I know slizer is out of town for the weekend and spursdude I have not heard anything back from yet, So I was thinking about the first project and what it could be. I have a build in mind, but was thinking of making it a choose one, pick 2 build types and let the the students choose.

I know I have not heard from my students yet, but I was thinking of announcing the first build this weekend and give everyone until after my surgery to work on it.

So I will sleep on it and maybe post something by tomorrow.

[Fautor Animus]

Troop! Fall in! I'm happy with my student. I sent him that application just for fun, and well, I think we understand each other... :D

[BugCatcher6]

Troop! Fall in! I'm happy with my student. I sent him that application just for fun, and well, I think we understand each other... :D

I figured in the questionnaires, you said you were a better battler then a breeder and thejearbear said he was a better breeder then battler, so maybe you both can learn something he-he.

[Trombones13]

Why is my name bolded and in red? On the first post, that is.

...And, now it's not. Okay...

[Nak]

Were you searching for your username? Because you're the only one seeing that. Key words you search for appear in bold red.

[Trombones13]

*slaps forehead* I was. Duh! Thank you, Nak.

[Nak]

*slaps forehead* I was. Duh! Thank you, Nak.Glad to help. :mrgreen:

[BugCatcher6]

O.K. grunts, I think slizer will be home by tonight or tomorrow or something and I am just guessing, but most of the teachers should have been able to hear something from their students, so let's do a first project.


We are going to build a lead Pokemon. What will this entail? O.K. most people think of lead Pokemon as Baton Passers, but a lead Pokemon can be anything that sets the ton for your team. Here is something I want to see though just for this project.
Baton Passer(Passes on stat boosting or other Pokemon helping moves.)
Annoyer(Status Inflicter.)
Hazard(Spikes, Toxic Spikes, or Stealth Rock.)
Hazer(Uses Haze to stop stat raisers.)
Rapid Spinner(Stops Hazards.)
Shuffler(Kinda same as an Annoyer, inflicts status and then roar/whirlwind on to another Pokemon.)This project starts today Sunday, January 27th 2008 and will end on Sunday, February 10th. That is right, 2 weeks to work on the building just 1 Pokemon. I know people will build and test and train and rebuild and retest, so I am giving 2 weeks to build 1 Pokemon. It does not have to follow the above 6 themes to a T. It can fill multiple roles. Please read a little bit of knowledge I found on the web about team building and battling.

I found this little paragraph in a guide I was viewing when looking for projects to do for this event.

Battle Tips
These are some essential tips that must be generally followed throughout battling:

Don't go by the book! Guides are to be followed to a certain level; it is then entirely up to you. I cannot help you if your Pokémon turned out to have low IVs for example.
Do not let strong Pokémon faint! You should keep your Pokémon active as long as possible even if this means switching often. Losing even one team member might ruin a strategy. Try to switch when a type disadvantage comes up.
Know about Pokémon! This is achievable through intense training but pays off in the end. You know about your team's pros and cons. You might also predict your opponent's moves and abilities.
Study your opponent! Having a knowledge on what your opponent's style is, gives you a great advantage in determining the fastest way to defeat him and the moves that are best suited to counter him.
Do not cheat! I know it's hard but you 'll feel a lot better in the end of your team preparation and this will pay off in several victories.
Written by Eraleas.

Oh teachers feel free to build along if you want.

[Fautor Animus]

I figured in the questionnaires, you said you were a better battler then a breeder and thejearbear said he was a better breeder then battler, so maybe you both can learn something he-he.

Well, I don't have the knack for breeding high IVs and stuff, but I'm a battler first and foremost.
Also, about my student, Mr. Jearbear hasn't been online in a while, and I sent him a pm, so... should I wait, or what? Should I take on one of the second students that has been given to a teacher, or are the matchups final?

[Nak]

Well, I don't have the knack for breeding high IVs and stuff, but I'm a battler first and foremost.
Also, about my student, Mr. Jearbear hasn't been online in a while, and I sent him a pm, so... should I wait, or what? Should I take on one of the second students that has been given to a teacher, or are the matchups final?Jared's been going invisible lately. Dunno if that helps.

[michael16]

i can tell im a bit late to start postin here but,...

does anyone no how this tournament is guna work?
will it be a standard knockout battle (that bein the trainers) or sommat else?

also, i think that idea for teachers to be involved in the tournament sounds like loads of fun (though i dunt get how its guna work)

stupid question: is it just me or are all the teachers gym leaders? (nothin against that. just curious...)

8) thanx

[Slizer107]

Im back in town, i miss the constant noise of camp =( how will i cope when im ove 14 =(, anyway ive pm u buzz, thing is i dont have a favorite pokemon as such, but i have 4 i rlly like =)

[Trombones13]

*bets Hoppip is one* Since I don't like infractions for spam, I'll add that I'm really excited. Anyone else already planning their Pokemon out? :D

[Brainhost]

I am. I've got everything set and written down. All I need to do now is discuss it with my teach and start planning out the breeding chains. But that won't take too long once I get started. I think I will easily be able to finish up all moves and the nature before the 2 week mark, so I will have plenty of time to try and breed some good IV's on the Pokémon.

Also, I have a question that I think Buzz is the one to answer. The Pokémon we should present to you on the day that our assignments should be turned over, should they only have the proper IV's and moves, or would they also need to be EV-trained? It makes a pretty solid difference in time planning.

[Trombones13]

I envy your skills. *looks ahead in fear of Brainhost's amazing beasts crush Trombones13's wimpy, un-EV/IV-trained squirts*

[Brainhost]

Hahaha, I wouldn't worry too much ;) This is my second breeding project I've ever done in my entire life, so I would have to bring out some bigtime attention to this project to make it nicely IV'd.

[michael16]

i agree with u trombones. i havnt even begun to seriously think about mi pkmn...:cool:

brainhost, u say its ur second... well this is mi first. so how do u think i feel...?

[Fautor Animus]

I think I'm going to require EVs on the pokes of my student. My students never go half-way. EVs make or break your pokemon in the end. They decide whether your moves go to good effect, etc.

[Master]

stupid question: is it just me or are all the teachers gym leaders? (nothin against that. just curious...)

8) thanx[/QUOTE]


I am not a gym leader.

[BugCatcher6]

I should have mentioned that the Pokemon should be EV'd trained as well. No point in teaching someone how to build and battle a Pokemon if they don't have the EVs to make them effective.

Yes we have 5 Gym Leaders as teachers, belnumcree was not a Gym Leader when he requested to be a teacher. I had the thread up for 2 weeks I believe and Gym Leaders and Fautor Animus where the only ones to sign up as teachers, until I let someone join the group late. Not complaining that you requested late, just stating that the Gym Leaders were eager to teach members.

I think also for the most part, the Gym Leaders have seen just about every member in their Gym and know what the players like to do and hope we can correct this he-he.

[Master]

I never saw the thread.So I didn't know till late.

[Babael]

I think I'm going to require EVs on the pokes of my student. My students never go half-way. EVs make or break your pokemon in the end. They decide whether your moves go to good effect, etc.

As for the EV spreads I think I'll require my students to discuss their EV spreads before EV training.
We can always use the "standard" spreads for reference then modify them for our purposes, hehe.

[BugCatcher6]

I told my students that I would do the big write ups as a 2 in 1 PM, but I would keep info for their builds separate so not to give away any information. I just have to figure out how to get them to understand what I want to see from them.

[BugCatcher6]

This post is for Fautor Animus, Soccergurl22, or Master. I received a PM from a forum member wanting to be in the class. You 3 each have 1 student, would 1 of you want a second student? piichan is looking to join in.

[Master]

I guess I can take on another.

[BugCatcher6]

Thank you Master. I PM'd your new student to let them know they can start class. If you could PM them as well to try and get an idea of what they are wanting to breed and help them decide.

So after some PM sessions with my students they both have settled on a Pokemon and a move-set to build. Next I plan on talking EVs with them to keep them moving threw the project.

Also I would just like to mention, this project is suppose to teach breeding and battling. So if you have Pokemon already that you want to use, go to one of the Gyms and leave this class behind. No offense, but if you have Pokemon already with move-sets and you are not open to any of the information being given, then you are in the wrong class. This class is to show off Pokemon bred by you, so any Pokemon with another trainer's name will get you removed from the class.

The reason I say this is, it is suppose to be a level playing field and see who can come up with the best in the time frame given. If you are using Pokemon you already have, then you are ahead of the other students.

[Fautor Animus]

Wait, I have not heard from my student at all, and although it can't be excused, I haven't been near a computer in the past two days, so... what should I do, being studentless and all.

[BugCatcher6]

Wait, I have not heard from my student at all, and although it can't be excused, I haven't been near a computer in the past two days, so... what should I do, being studentless and all.

O.K. you can take piichan then. Master I am going to let Fautor be piichan's teacher. thejearbear said in his PM to me he is on almost everyday, but if you don't hear anything soon, he can be dropped.

[BugCatcher6]

Also we now have juaco interested in joining as a student. So any teachers with only 1 student, you have the option to pick up juaco.

[Babael]

I've been communicating with both my students and they have a general idea of the pokemon and move sets they're using. We've yet to discuss natures, EVs, and IVs. We're making progress.*grins*

[BugCatcher6]

I asked my students what they wanted to do with their lead Pokemon, well first I asked what their favorite Pokemon was. One student will be building his favorite Pokemon for his lead Pokemon. The other well could not give an answer for his favorite. He gave me the Pokemon that was going to be on his entire team. So we are doing the first build and he has his entire team designed.

I mean first I wanted to discuss what they wanted to do and we got there. Next how to obtain that goal. Then I gave a few options for move-set that could accomplish that. One student wanted to breed and the other one already had his Pokemon, so for the one breeding I told him to look for certain natures to breed for and the other I suggested an EV spread.

I figure once the Pokemon is bred, trained, and ready, we can battle with their Pokemon to work on how to use that Pokemon. Also I could then throw in some counters and they could learn how to try and predict how an opponent will react to their Pokemon.


Also for the other teachers, are your students starting their builds or doing anything yet? I somehow think this class event is going down the crapper before it even got started.

[Babael]

I think prediction skills are very important and I've been thinking about how I can give my students more experience in that area. Since prediction skills are generally based on the experience of the trainer. I'd like to get them familiar with the common move sets for the common counters to the pokemon on their team, so they have an idea of what to expect. I find the Smogon site useful for this purpose.

[BugCatcher6]

Yeah I use Serebii during battles, but I study on Smogon. I will use Serebii during battles to see what weaknesses the Pokemon has, but I also look at it's potential moves and which ones can hurt me.

[juaco]

hi. i am newbie on this class if one teacher accept me.

i am active and i can find space in my schudale to build the pokemon.

also i would like to say.

i will be out of town since February 1 to february 10.( family visit)

this doesnt mean i cant build.

i can talk to the teacher before and i will build during that vacation.

and i will came back 3 day before the top date.

so i expect or i thing this wont be a problem at all.

nice finally i have a reason to build my favorite pokemon (is UU)

[Fautor Animus]

I will take you! :D Be prepared, I am a tough teacher.

[juaco]

really?

i tought you had already 2 student?

or did jearbear decline.

well in a few minutes i have to go to school.

but once principal buzz make it official.

i will respond your questionary about the pokemon i wanna use and all that.

or should i pm to you?

ps: lately i had problem with ev training and diciding some moves. that why i join to have more confident and learn more.

oh i have to take care. i dont wanna get in problem with the teacher:lol:

[Slizer107]

I am working on my pokemon, his evs have ran away with me lol, im just gunna kill 10-15 more magikarp. Ive ikinda kept record but not sure.

[BugCatcher6]

Fautor Animus technically has 2 students, we will have to wait and see if jearbear replies soon.

Slizer I wish you told me in your PM you did not keep an accurate record of your EVs. It should not matter for your build, this time, but it is important to keep an accurate record. I have on my website a page with the sheets I use to keep track of my EVs, if you print them off they will make it easier to record the EVs.

[Fautor Animus]

really?

i tought you had already 2 student?

or did jearbear decline.

well in a few minutes i have to go to school.

but once principal buzz make it official.

i will respond your questionary about the pokemon i wanna use and all that.

or should i pm to you?

ps: lately i had problem with ev training and diciding some moves. that why i join to have more confident and learn more.

oh i have to take care. i dont wanna get in problem with the teacher:lol:

Just pm me what you would like to use, and/or some kind of technique, and I will give your team some animus!

[Slizer107]

This Breeders And Battelers is rlly fun. And beleive it or not i trust my teacher :eek:

*hides from buzz*

Buzz is an amazing teacher. This is both fun and educational.

Btw buzz, what you think i used away on scout camp =)

[BugCatcher6]

This Breeders And Battelers is rlly fun. And beleive it or not i trust my teacher :eek:

*hides from buzz*

Buzz is an amazing teacher. This is both fun and educational.

Btw buzz, what you think i used away on scout camp =)

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[juaco]

so....

i have to wait or can i start now?

[thejearbear]

Jared's been going invisible lately. Dunno if that helps.

omg,
go ahead and ruin my "undercover" work with your admin privileges:rolleyes:

j/k, I've been really busy w/ school -just finished my midterms
so, I'm coming back to the farm (whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, not my call)

so anyways, I'm happy to be back and excited to start this class

[Master]

I can take on juaco.

[BugCatcher6]

So that settles it then, juaco meet Master, Master this is juaco, have fun build some great Pokemon.

[juaco]

nice.

i will start soon as posibble.

and will meet better my teacher.

omg this class is so fun.:)

[Slizer107]

Lol buzz, i printed of 5 of those ev sheets you had made for scout camp. Btw my first progect is done, im just getting him to evolve then get him happy.

[Brainhost]

Wow, I thought I was pretty much on schedule with everyone else, but you're racing ahead with some momentum, Slizer! Aw, I have nothing to worry about I guess. I've only just started with with the move chain, and I'll have a few more days for IV breeding, and then EV's.
I think I'm gonna have to let Master teach me the IV breeding; I've never done that before.

[Nak]

Now that I think of it, this is a bit of a crash course. I though Buzz would start off with a breeding assignment as a recap or intro. But it looks like the first program is needed as a prerequisite for this course. The again a lot of (if not, all) the students here have farmed something before.

I'm really curious about the results.

[juaco]

right now i am starting to breed the pokemon i want.

to get the correct iv parent.

them i will use the parent or father to get the move i want.

and breed the finals pokemon i will iv check each pokemon.

so i guess i am going to fnish the iv breed in 2-4 days.

i wanna get a really one so i will hacth many i need or the posibles.

so this is like my udpate. i am very happy with my teacher.

and well i have to say we have a good time to build the pokemon.

my main problem is with the EVs

[Brainhost]

So am I, Nak. I also though we would be starting off with something a little less advanced, but I've never taken the previous course, so yeah. This sudden start does increase the sharpness though, so we won't 'doze off' as soon as the projects are finished =).
Do we get to see all results after every person's project has been shown to Buzz, or are these kept secret?

[Nak]

So am I, Nak. I also though we would be starting off with something a little less advanced, but I've never taken the previous course, so yeah.
Do we get to see all results after every person's project has been shown to Buzz, or are these kept secret?

I don't know. I'm only a mentor, so it's all on Buzz. :p

[Brainhost]

I was kinda hoping someone would remember it from the last course, but we'll have to await Buzz's answer on that one then. ..Sigh.. schoolwork gets in the way of breeding. I want to continue so badly X3.

Edit: I just thought of a question I wanted to pose for a while; What's the current opinion towards putting the class projects (after the final breed has been handed over to the director of the class) up for farming projects on the PokéFarm Forums?

PS: Wow, Nak, have you beaten the E4? Awesome! I didn't notice that before. Congratulations!

[toys4life]

I was kinda hoping someone would remember it from the last course, but we'll have to await Buzz's answer on that one then. ..Sigh..

LOL...I was a student in the last class and I'm not sure if Nananettie would agree, but for me this class is on a whole nother level of breeding!

I think Buzz has rewritten the class syllabus and nothing will be as it was before. :wink:

[Slizer107]

Well for me i had the pokemon already, id done like 30 speed evs already, the zubat came in a nuture and iv that meant i didnt need to ev train in attk, and the 2 evs i needed both had a trainer rlly good for them. I got this pokemon IV bred from WCN iv bred already, so i kinda had a head start. And this isnt going on a crash curse well im not i dont think lol. This is rlly fun. Ur a gr8 teacher buzz, and im sure all the others are 2 =) lifted any1s spirits?

Ive lifted my own lol, i love typing =):lol:

[Nak]

I got this pokemon IV bred from WCN iv bred already, so i kinda had a head start.So basically you just pasted your name on Mike's breed?

[Slizer107]

No he bred the pokemon im using, isnt that what farms are for, to provide pokemon for toehrs to use, i wasnt just gunna leave it floating in a box =), is this wrong? Cos the ivs were allready there i didnt decide for them to be there.

[nana nettie]

Slizer, this class is to teach us. If someone does the work for us, we don't learn. I am working on my first Pokemon and I happened to pick a pokemon that I didn't have, so I went in search of one. It's not meant to be easy, it's meant to teach us to do things ourselves :) Plus the challenge is so worth it :)

[Slizer107]

I have learned, If any1 says to me you bred that.... well i would straight away say Wcn bred it. Should i re-do the zubat then?

Btw the rest of the pokemon will be bred by me. I promis.

[Brainhost]

Is the trainer name that of your own? If it's not, you will have to rebreed it. Also, it's kind of cheating in my feelings, but you'll only cheat yourself, so you need to decide for yourself if this feels right to do.

[Slizer107]

Aww man, it would only be this one, but hmm, i would only be cheating myself. Ill w8 and see what my teacher says.

[Nak]

No he bred the pokemon im using, isnt that what farms are for, to provide pokemon for toehrs to use, i wasnt just gunna leave it floating in a box =), is this wrong? Cos the ivs were allready there i didnt decide for them to be there.

It's not cheating, persay. But it's more of a shortcut. You re-breeding Mike's farm event is like taking a xerox copy of your friend's homework. If you turn it in, then it would be cheating.

[Slizer107]

So just leave it and dont do it again?

[Babael]

Aww man, it would only be this one, but hmm, i would only be cheating myself. Ill w8 and see what my teacher says.

I thought the students had to be the OT of the pokemon they'll be using in this class.

[nana nettie]

Aww man, it would only be this one, but hmm, i would only be cheating myself. Ill w8 and see what my teacher says.


I don't think I'd want to hear what your teacher (Buzz) say's :eek::eek:

*Nana runs to the drugstore to pick up earplugs before Buzz logs in and reads*

[toys4life]

I don't think I'd want to hear what your teacher (Buzz) say's :eek::eek:

*Nana runs to the drugstore to pick up earplugs before Buzz logs in and reads*

LOL! Man I didn't realize how much I missed being in class! I love this place! :lol::lol:

[Slizer107]

I think i may leave the breeders and battalers, im just a cheater.

[Babael]

I think i may leave the breeders and battalers, im just a cheater.

Just start over, no need to leave.

[Slizer107]

But ive worked for ages on the pokemon. Plus the pokemons a woman, so i cant get the moves into a new breed. Thats why i may have to leave.

[Babael]

But ive worked for ages on the pokemon. Plus the pokemons a woman, so i cant get the moves into a new breed. Thats why i may have to leave.

Umm, didn't you say that WCN bred it? Just find a suitable breeding male and move on, I just don't see a point in giving up now. You still have time yet.

[Slizer107]

I sound stuck up dont i, i dont want to re breed it. Is there any way that i cant just be very sorry and not do it again. And as a punishment i ave to give away my best items?

[Brainhost]

Slizer, get a hold of yourself man. You have nearly two weeks (read that again! Two Weeks) to fix a new breed. That's plenty of time, and with your expertise (I know you run a great farm) and experience, that's more then do-able!
You don't need to leave, you just need to take in some fresh air, and start from the beginning. You'll do perfectly fine ;).

[Slizer107]

You obviously dont no me do u?

[Brainhost]

No I don't.
I also don't know what is so 'not knowing' about my little peptalk. It doesn't adres your personal self anywhere in that piece of text. My best bet is that you're just evading supportive replies.
And if you would be so kind to explain why you so dreadfully strike down every suggestion, and also explain exactly why you want to leave, I would very much appreciate that. I'm sorry, but I just don't really understand that reaction. Maybe because I don't know you <_<

[Slizer107]

I think im just a cheater but

Sigh ioff i go to breed some more, i will also iv breed. Lol im perswaided.

[Brainhost]

Good to know.
I'm sure you'll do a great job at it. You have plenty of material to create your own awesome Pokémon.

I'd still like to know why you reacted that way to the small peptalks though.. It was a little strange :lol: But if you don't want to say so, I don't mind.

[Slizer107]

I was angry at myself more than anything. I thaight of myself as a cheater.

[joinred1127]

^Your not a cheater slizer107! If you were, we would have fed you to wild animals by now! :D

P.S. I love to read this thread and see what you guys come up with; it's very helpful. I think I'll take a summer course of this the next time it comes around.

[Slizer107]

I no im not a cheater (now)

[juaco]

slizer just a comment.

man be original.

atfer all this class is to learn having fun.

you dont need to build the pokemon like someone else did.

just try to be original with your ideas and battle style.

dont waste your time tryiging to copy some else strategy.

every mind is a world.i am sure you will work to male your own.

[BugCatcher6]

There was not a rule saying you had to be the original breeder, since some people could opt to bring in an Emerald move tutor Pokemon. Then again it is a class titled Breeders and Battlers. I am not saying you can't use the Zubat, but as for this class I told you in PMs you should breed your own instead of using something you already had. You can use your original Zubat all you want after the class is over, but I told you many many, and forgive me, many times. You have over looked all my tips or comments and submitted your own. Most of the options I PM'd you were not good ideas until about 3 or 4 PMs later when you said hey how about this. Once it was your idea, it was good for you to use.

Look I am not down playing you. I have no final say on what you build. If I could, I would get you acting a bit more like spursdude and spursdude acting a bit more like you. You are kinda set in your way and that is cool, but you need to listen and breath in any tips being laid out before you. spursdude is quick to agree with anything I say. My way is not the right way, but the Buzz way. You have to build your Pokemon, because you will be battling with it. If you listen to my options for move-sets, then you will also have to learn how to use that move-set.

I give list of different move-sets and moves for what your Pokemon can use. It does not mean they are what you should use. That is why I gave so long to breed this first Pokemon. Your lead Pokemon is the most vital Pokemon on your team in my opinion. It needs to set the tone for your team, but not define your team.

[Slizer107]

Well, if i cant get another (insert pokemon here) by the time the deadlines over i will go back to the orginal (insert pokemon here), but im sure i will get a new 1 =)

[BugCatcher6]

Well, if i cant get another (insert pokemon here) by the time the deadlines over i will go back to the orginal (insert pokemon here), but im sure i will get a new 1 =)

Well considering you would be building the same Pokemon, you can use the original to breed new ones. This build is a 2 week build, that is more then enough time to build 1 Pokemon. Do you see why I was a little upset after the 3rd day you were wanting to move on to the next Pokemon build?

I am trying to slow you down and help teach patience, but the only patience that is doing anything is mine. You could do alot better if you just slowed down a bit. I know this seems like a public brow beating, but you only seem to respond to things when they are posted in big shiny threads.

[Slizer107]

I didnt realise i had so long at the time. Anyway, i am using the original to breed with as it may give good ivs 2, plus the poekmon im using to breed also have very good ivs in speed and something.

Hay theres a bright side =)

[juaco]

i will be out of town since tomorrow until february 6.

i believe this wont have any problem in my class.

maybe i wont connect or get online in those 6 days.

but i can work on my project.

and i will have enought day to finish ev train i think so.

[Kiwi]

well im afraid im gonna be away for a while, should be back around wednesday, ill be able to work on the project, but no wifi or internet, i think...

[Slizer107]

My pokemon i bred and using (now called Candis) had the ivs in the places i wanted 31 in attk and speed =) i acctually got some good 1s these r the full ivs of the 1 im using

23/31/18/21/16/31

Now ive got the full moveset for thsi thing again lol, ive already got 60 speed evs into her. I think this secomnd round iks even batter =) Thx for the help guys. This pokemon is better than it ever would have been. =)

[Brainhost]

I just thought I might revive this thread. It's been awfully silent in class lately.

So how is everyone doing with their projects? Trying not to give too much away, I've started to create the parents. I'm breeding for Impish females and leveling up a male for the final move that needs to be in the moveset. After that, I'll start IV-breeding away. Not everything has progressed smoothly so far, but things are, luckily, coming together towards the end! Just hoping I can finish EV training on time...

Update us all on your progress, share your stories, any rare things happened during the breeding? A lot of words short: Say something ^^!
- Brainhost

[thejearbear]

well its gonna come down to the line for me
i haven't even finished deciding the moves and IVs to breed for

EDIT: *feels stupid, lol

[Brainhost]

I'd hate to rain on your parade but...

(...) and will end on Sunday, February 10th.
You only have until the end of this week. I wish all the best luck to you and hope you'll be on time finishing it. Again, sorry to be a bringer of bad news..

[spursdude2]

Cool i have a week to EV train. goodie! i guess i could plan my next build!

[Slizer107]

Ive comepleted and tested her. Shes the reason for the icicle badge =) im so proud of sharpay.

[thejearbear]

I'd hate to rain on your parade but...
You only have until the end of this week.

yeah, i thought it seemed pretty long...lol
no worries, idk what I calender I was looking at:rolleyes:
~thx

[Fautor Animus]

JearBear, as your teacher, I say, time means nothing to a properly thought out pokemon. You started a bit late, and getting an "f" for on-time is better than an "f" on the obverall build. But of course, hitting the deadline is good too!

[Slizer107]

Im thinking of many possibibltys for my next pokemon. Thou i need to no wat the next progect is. We got 3 days left.

[BugCatcher6]

For those that have plans to be away for the rest of the week or the weekend, I will allow you to turn in your project on Monday. Having said that and knowing people will be like wow that is nice even for Buzz, here is the catch, I am not physically checking projects. You will write a report. It does not have to be 1800 words. I want to know what your project was, Pokemon and style. Your move-set and how you got the move-set. What did you breed with or what TMs/HMs you used. I would also like to know the Nature, Characteristic, EVs, and IVs (if you IV checked it, which you should have).

The reason I am not physically checking them is for 2 reasons. Reason 1, we will have a Mid-Term to test your first 3 Pokemon and a Final to test all 6. Reason 2, I don't feel like sitting around waiting to look over everyone's Pokemon when I can just have you right them down and give me all the information I would have to ask after I looked at the Pokemon.

So just PM me with all the information on your Pokemon.

Name
Pokemon
Lead Usage/Style
Move-set
Family Tree/How you got the moves.
EVs
IVs
Nature
Characteristic
Any other details you can think of to make your Pokemon more attractive.

[Taterbud]

Is the report just for those that are going to be away during the time when our pokemon is due, or is the report for all of us?

[Slizer107]

Ive pmed it anyway, i get to tell my teacher what ive done while hes bin gone so even if i didnt have to i wanted to =)

[BugCatcher6]

It is for everyone. I did this with the breeders class I had before and it worked great for me when grading. Of course the real grade is the Mid-Term and Finals. Every Pokemon looks killer on paper he-he.

[BugCatcher6]

This post is to start the grading process. I have received 2 reports and I will give a grade for the reports, remember the major grades will come from the Mid-Terms and Finals.

Report Information:

Name
Pokemon
Lead Usage/Style
Move-set
Family Tree/How you got the moves.
EVs
IVs
Nature
Characteristic
Any other details you can think of to make your Pokemon more attractive.Class Roster/Grade Book:
Student / Project Theme / Move-set / Body / Genealogy / Overall

Brainhost - *
Kiwi - *
michael16 - *
nana nettie - *
Nightcrawler_m - *
piichan - *
slizer107 - B / B / C / C / C+

spursdude2 - C / C / C / C / C

Taterbud -*
thejearbear - *
toys4life -*
Trombones13 - *
Grade Category:

Student - Just the Student being graded.

Project Theme - Does the Pokemon match the project being built.

Move-set - Does the move-set fit the build, theme, Pokemon, and originality.

Body - This is the grades for Nature, IVs, EVs, and Characteristics.
Geneology - How you bred your Pokémon.

Overall - The final grade for the project.Notes:
I will go into detail on why things were graded the way they were.

slizer107:
You got a C+ overall. The reason the grades were not higher, the Pokémon you chose, I will use your nickname, Sharpay, was not a typical Lead Pokémon, but does fill the role of Pseudo-Hazer or Annoyer. Your move-set is good, but I would have loved to give you a lower grade here. The move-set is good and worthy of an A, but it is the most common move-set your Pokémon could have. Now the grade for the Nature, EVs, and IVs. Again C is the grade, but could have been easily higher. The Nature you chose was Adamant and for your Pokémon to truly be effective as a lead Pokémon, I would have used Jolly. Forget power and look at Speed, you want to be the fastest at the lead position to make your Pokémon truly effective. IVs you could only give me the 2 main IV stats and guessed at a 3rd stat, but no info for any of the others. If you IV checked it you should have known all 6 IVs. Your EVs are spread to be a Speed Attacker and not a Pseudo-Hazer or Annoyer. With your move-set you want to move first and hang around for awhile, so a spread in Speed, HP, and then ATK/SP.ATK. I would have gone as far as to put 216 SPD, 160 HP, and 132 in either DEF/SP.DEF. Remember though, this is your build and it has to work for you. I am just grading on what I think would be the best for the Pokémon, and you have to build on how it is the best for you. In closing your family tree for your build. I saw alot of names of other people in build. You used Pokémon from other people that already had high IVs, that is a shortcut, but a good shortcut. By the details you gave me, I was not sure if you bred in the Egg Move, although you had to if have it on your Pokémon.

spursdude2:
You have a C, but your selection of what Pokémon you would be using is awesome. You chose your favorite and that is cool, now if your favorite will work he-he. Your Apollo is going to be a Hazard Pokémon and your move-set is was great for a Hazard Pokemon, but you got a C for just agreeing with my idea and not sticking to your original idea. The body, you went with the Nature I suggested, which is perfect for this Pokémon, but your IVs were kinda low, besides the one stat you really needed. Your EV spread was a simple 252/252/6, but for this Pokémon, it is perfect. Your family tree for this Pokémon, it looks like to me you used all TMs/HM and that is O.K. on a battle build, but for the breeder part it is not. Overall it is a C, but the grade is not what will define this Pokémon. I think it will perform well in battle and will do it's job well.

[BugCatcher6]

I know this is the 3rd post in a row, but the first was to reply to a previous post, the 2nd to start the grading system, and now this 3rd one is for something far more important then grades or building Pokémon.

I noticed some people have been MIA and I know some had posted about being away for a few days, that is no big deal, but The ones I am not hearing anything from is.

soccergurl22 are you to busy to perform your teacher role?
juaco you need to decide soon if you are doing this for the fun or just to say you are a part of it. This is like the 3rd time you have decided to take a break and never take the break. I think I see where everyone started posting about being on vacation or going away for a few days and now juaco is as well. I don't want to go into details for what I think is going on here, but you need to decide if you want to do this or not. After signing up after the event had started and causing a major stir in the pool of the event, well I will stop there.

Also, if anyone else wishes to end their run in this event, now is the time to do so. I am not upset, I know things change. I know from my last class event that people dropped out every week or so, I am just giving the chance to bow out gracefully now.

[Slizer107]

Hay thats not bad considering it was the first progect, plus my teacher wernt around. So the next event comming tommoro?

[BugCatcher6]

Hay thats not bad considering it was the first progect, plus my teacher wernt around. So the next event comming tommoro?

I would so not joke about your teacher not being around right now. To start you did not want to listen to anything I had to say information wise. You wanted to use a Pokemon bred by WCN for your project and was completely upset that I wanted a fresh bred Pokemon. I don't know what changed your, if you even did because your family tree was so random it looked like you just made alot of it up to fill the report. Who knows maybe your project still has WCN name on it.

As far as your teacher not being around. I believe I worked with you and spursdude in PMing ideas and details around for about 4 days before I had surgery. If you did not learn anything from the PMs in 4 days, I am pretty sure going the next 5 days without me being around would have helped you any more.

I have to admit though and this is going to sound mean, but I will post it anyway. When I was building up the students and teachers groups, I really did not want people mad at me for pairing them with slizer107, so I took you as a student to keep others from going insane. So far in just the 2 weeks of being your teacher, I can see that no matter what anyone here has told you before or will tell you now or even tell you in the future will help you. You are like my 3 year old son. You need instant gratification. There is no waiting for you. You will find the older you get the less it is about you. I know you have heard this hear before, but you really need to sit back, relax, and calm down. Your eagerness to please or be involved in everything is really starting to be to much.

Like I said I know this sounds mean and really I don't know why I am arguing the fact to a 11-13 year old, but I sat around 5 days in pain and all I could think about was this site and helping members that needed it. Seeing that comment about not having a teacher is just disgusting to me.

[Slizer107]

Yes yes you are being extremly mean there. Should i just drop out then if im that much of a bother?

[toys4life]

:shock:

*Quietly sitting at my desk, trying not to be noticed.*

:eek: Gotta finish my homework!

*Look back down at my desk and start writing my report*

[juaco]

i am out.

dont have any comment.

yes i know.

this time is not about a break...i am playing digimon dusk....just playing other games...new challenges..

sorry and bye.

since this is like a break put on work the clause #12 and give me my break...(i need it)

[nana nettie]

:shock:

*Quietly sitting at my desk, trying not to be noticed.*

:eek: Gotta finish my homework!

*Look back down at my desk and start writing my report*

You are not :mad: I just caught you peeking at my report :mad:

*Nana raises her hand to tattle on T4L*

Ha Ha........I told on the cheater :evil: :lol::lol:

Teach you to sit quietly :D

[toys4life]

You are not :mad: I just caught you peeking at my report :mad:

*Nana raises her hand to tattle on T4L*

Ha Ha........I told on the cheater :evil: :lol::lol:

Teach you to sit quietly :D

:eek: DUDE!!!! don't get me in trouble!!!

I don't want to be drawing any attention me, not unless I have my homework done...which I don't! (real world obligations are such a pain!)

...Besides I wasn't cheating, I was just checking to see if you were doing your homework. All you ever do is sit there nibbling on brownies and staring out the window! :wink:

[BugCatcher6]

I can't wait for the rest of the reports. What I was thinking about though, was I did say I would let the teachers help more with grades. It has me wondering if I should have each student PM their report to each teacher and then each teacher send me grades, then I could average the grade. The only thing I think about is, it could possibly influence decisions teachers would make on future projects. But then I am thinking, I am teaching and grading all the students, so why would I not follow suit on what I think others could do.

What I am trying to say is, why do I feel I can be more impartial then say Nak or WestCoastNinja.

So I my answer to myself is, shame on you. I did not mean to say the other teachers could not be trusted.

So when you write up your report, send a copy to every teacher. I am going to change the grading system from the current letter grade to a points system. Everything will be given a 1-5 score. 5 will be the best and 1 the worst. Basically a 5 would be an A and a 1 an F, but with points I can then take the total grades say
Project Theme: Does the Pokémon meet the current project theme.

Move-set: Does the move-set match the theme and is it original or cookie cutter.

Body: Does the Nature, IVs, and EVs match the Pokémon and it's theme.

Genealogy: How this Pokémon was built. TMs, Egg Moves, & Level Up Moves. The more natural the Pokémon was built the better the grade should be.
That means for scores will be entered and the final overall grade will be the average of those 4.
Example:
Project Theme / Move-set / Body / Genealogy / Overall
5 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 3.75
5+3+4+3=15/4=3.75

The report information will remain the same.
Report Information:

Name: The students name.

Pokemon: what Pokémon you are using.
Nickname: Pokémon's nickname for discussion purposes.

Style/Theme: What the Pokémon is designed to do.

Move-set: The moves your Pokémon will use.

Family Tree: What Pokémon you used during breeding and what moves they passed on. Basically your breeding chain.

EVs: How you set your EV spread, should match your Pokémon's strength and purpose.

IVs: Your Pokémon's IV, to tell if the IVs match the Pokémon and it's purpose.

Nature: Nature should enhance your Pokémon's strength and purpose.

Any other details you can think of to make your Pokemon more attractive.So after the teachers view your build and grade it, they will send their grades and comments(if any) to me and I will average them all out and get the grades for each category and the overall score.

[Slizer107]

Bug am i ohnstly that much of a bother that people would complain to have me as there student?

[BugCatcher6]

Bug am i ohnstly that much of a bother that people would complain to have me as there student?

Honestly, you drive people insane with your constant posting and PMs about I wanna, I wanna, I wanna. You need to relax some. You are the only member ever to get a ban from a Gym for 3 months, all because you bugging the Gym Leader constantly. The rule of waiting a week to rebattle were put up for a reason. They give the member that has lose time to look at their team and make changes. You are constantly bugging Gym Leaders for battles. You have lost like 3-5 times in most Gyms and for awhile made very little changes to your team and did not take the advice Gym Leaders were giving you about your team. It is from this mentality that people go invisible when you log on.

I am not trying to be mean. I am being blunt because it seems like you are a nice kid, but you need to tone it down some or people will start running from you.

[Slizer107]

Oh so thats y people just disappear when i get on. Well this is a day spoiler. Maybe i should be the invisible 1, the options are calling to me. People run away from me anyway, im use to it.

[BugCatcher6]

See that is another thing that people are not liking. You bring this whole thing about why people don't like me, when someone tells you, you act as if the other people are the problem. Or you try to pass it off as having multiple personalities and that is really something you should be trying to pass off.

And really going invisible will not help your case. You like to post for no reason at all sometimes, so people will know you are online.

Like I said, I hate sounding mean, but I have tried talking to you before about this and you don't listen. So now I am being blunt and you have no idea the magnitude of your actions.

[BugCatcher6]

Anyway,

So when you write up your report, send a copy to every teacher. I am going to change the grading system from the current letter grade to a points system. Everything will be given a 1-5 score. 5 will be the best and 1 the worst. Basically a 5 would be an A and a 1 an F, but with points I can then take the total grades say
Project Theme: Does the Pokémon meet the current project theme.

Move-set: Does the move-set match the theme and is it original or cookie cutter.

Body: Does the Nature, IVs, and EVs match the Pokémon and it's theme.

Genealogy: How this Pokémon was built. TMs, Egg Moves, & Level Up Moves. The more natural the Pokémon was built the better the grade should be.
That means for scores will be entered and the final overall grade will be the average of those 4.
Example:
Project Theme / Move-set / Body / Genealogy / Overall
5 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 3.75
5+3+4+3=15/4=3.75

The report information will remain the same.
Report Information:

Name: The students name.

Pokemon: what Pokémon you are using.
Nickname: Pokémon's nickname for discussion purposes.

Style/Theme: What the Pokémon is designed to do.

Move-set: The moves your Pokémon will use.

Family Tree: What Pokémon you used during breeding and what moves they passed on. Basically your breeding chain.

EVs: How you set your EV spread, should match your Pokémon's strength and purpose.

IVs: Your Pokémon's IV, to tell if the IVs match the Pokémon and it's purpose.

Nature: Nature should enhance your Pokémon's strength and purpose.

Any other details you can think of to make your Pokemon more attractive.So after the teachers view your build and grade it, they will send their grades and comments(if any) to me and I will average them all out and get the grades for each category and the overall score.

[Slizer107]

Ok back down to reality, i no im anoying i will change it, now im back into happy mode =), i promis i will try to stop being anoying. ;)

Ok buzz so do i need to write a new report cos i dont mind.

[BugCatcher6]

Ok back down to reality, i no im anoying i will change it, now im back into happy mode =), i promis i will try to stop being anoying. ;)

Ok buzz so do i need to write a new report cos i dont mind.

You can use the same report if you have it. If you don't have it, I do. So yeah send it to every teacher to have it graded.

[Slizer107]

Ok buzz i am sorry, spisoe me and you have clashing personalitys lol. Umm i think id like to change stuff on the report as im changing her name and i want to get things rite, ill be checking her ivs again.

[BugCatcher6]

O.K. I want a copy of the new report then when your done. Just remember there are 7 teachers and you can only send a PM to 5 members at one time, so copy and paste.

It is not that our personalities clash, it is that I don't like seeing a person pushed aside because they are over eager. You just need to relax some.

[Slizer107]

So i send it to all the teachers?

[BugCatcher6]

So yeah send it to every teacher to have it graded.

Um er uh :o

[Slizer107]

Sorry its early morning i got school my head is spinning, i put extra sugar on my cereal this morning and now my heads spining. I got that line from a tv show and its true =( Ok, im making it on word first lol.

[Nak]

You can use the same report if you have it. If you don't have it, I do. So yeah send it to every teacher to have it graded.
Duuude... owO I can only do so much with a PSP during the weekend! XD

When do teachers have to turn in the grades? I might be able to turn in the grades this weekend, but I can hand in full feedback until next Monday or Wednesday.

[BugCatcher6]

Duuude... owO I can only do so much with a PSP during the weekend! XD

When do teachers have to turn in the grades? I might be able to turn in the grades this weekend, but I can hand in full feedback until next Monday or Wednesday.

You just need to give a score of 1-5 on Project Theme / Move-set / Body / Genealogy. You don't have to write a book on why you chose the grade. I only added the part about the comments so teachers would know they could offer comments. Comments will not change anything about the build the student did, since the project will be completed. The comments are just for some notes I can add to the final write up for the student grade.

[Nak]

You just need to give a score of 1-5 on Project Theme / Move-set / Body / Genealogy. You don't have to write a book on why you chose the grade. I only added the part about the comments so teachers would know they could offer comments. Comments will not change anything about the build the student did, since the project will be completed. The comments are just for some notes I can add to the final write up for the student grade.

Ah, ok. I can do that no problem. :D

[BugCatcher6]

I am just hoping people turn in reports and teachers grade them and send the results to me. This class seems like it is stale already. Maybe 2 weeks was 2 long to work on the project.

During the farm classes, it seemed like people did not like only having a week to build 1 Pokemon, so this I gave 2 weeks since I had surgery and it seems people are disappearing. I have not heard much about anything from this build since returning.

[Nak]

I am just hoping people turn in reports and teachers grade them and send the results to me. This class seems like it is stale already. Maybe 2 weeks was 2 long to work on the project.

During the farm classes, it seemed like people did not like only having a week to build 1 Pokemon, so this I gave 2 weeks since I had surgery and it seems people are disappearing. I have not heard much about anything from this build since returning.

Two weeks is fine. It's enough time for busy people (w/ college and work) and not too long as to actually let the program "go stale". I don't know what's up with the other members... But if they can't keep up with the program, they should at least give a heads-up and withdraw rather than getting expelled.

On a side note, my students are doing well. Rather independent, actually. I hope I am actually helping them and not just stating the obvious, lol. I'm really excited to see their finished builds. :D

[BugCatcher6]

I hope something comes out of this. It is different to try and teach battling. No 2 battlers should ever be the same. Trying to let the student decide their projects, when they are in the class to learn how to do things is kinda odd to me.

So I gave a few basic designs to choose from. Let them pick the Pokemon and move-sets and then we discuss all the steps into making it do what the design calls for. Hopefully talking tactics and them getting to battle will help them understand more about what the other options of each build would bring and they can say well I think I should have gone more this way.

Getting them to look at the entire theme of a team and not just about grabbing the 6 biggest Pokemon is what I want to achieve.

[Nak]

Getting them to look at the entire theme of a team and not just about grabbing the 6 biggest Pokemon is what I want to achieve.I think the students understand that concept. My students picked Pokemon that wouldn't normally be starters. I'm curious myself as to how it will work out. I'm about to find out this weekened. :D

[BugCatcher6]

I think the students understand that concept. My students picked Pokemon that wouldn't normally be starters. I'm curious myself as to how it will work out. I'm about to find out this weekened. :D

Well I don't want to sound rude towards my students, but I had one pick his favorite Pokemon and the other pick a Pokemon that is the current hot Pokemon.

I truly thought with this event that people would build a fun team of favorites and let the hot list Pokemon alone, but I guess it does not matter as long as they learn about building a team.

[Nak]

Well I don't want to sound rude towards my students, but I had one pick his favorite Pokemon and the other pick a Pokemon that is the current hot Pokemon.

I truly thought with this event that people would build a fun team of favorites and let the hot list Pokemon alone, but I guess it does not matter as long as they learn about building a team.Well, we have to start with the basics. If working with the "hot Pokemon" feels safe for them, then so be it. Once they get used to battling, I think that's when they can develop their own style and begin using Pokemon of their liking and raising them to match their battling style, which of course develops after the experience.

[BugCatcher6]

Yeah talking about battling can only do so much. Getting the info and Pokemon to start battling and getting ideas from watching other people battle is what makes a good battler great. I hope to learn atleast 1 new thing from every battle. I always get ideas from a battle, but learning something new is awesome.

[Slizer107]

Well i also rlly liek thsi pokemon, but i was never sure if i could make it myself.

[BugCatcher6]

Well i also rlly liek thsi pokemon, but i was never sure if i could make it myself.

Well my comment was in no way talking ill of your Pokemon selection. I said this to you once before, you post reacting to what someone says and never really give any thought to why the person said what they said. Part of the reason I also mentioned about just posting to post. You have been on this forum since December and are already over 1100 post, that is way above even Nak's post count average.

Everything posted does not need a slizer comment.

Again I am not trying to be mean, but trying to get you to understand. Also going to point this out if you are wondering. How can I tell when you are just hurrying up and posting and not thinking about what you are posting about. Look at the quote in this post of what you posted. See the I also rlly liek thsi pokemon. O.K. with the misspelling of the words really like and this, that is common errors made by someone speed typing.

I am not trying to make fun or down you. I am trying to help you out. I have received PMs about post you have made and them not having anything to do with the topic or being posted without thinking or really reading the post the you were commenting on.

Slow down. I know all about being in a hurry to get things done. When you get to my age you will wish you spent more time enjoying things instead of running full tilt on everything.

Really my comment about 1 student picking his favorite Pokemon and the other picking one of the hot Pokemon right now, means nothing. You can pick any Pokemon you want for your team. My comment was directed to Nak and how I would like to see people build teams with Pokemon that are favorites and not the hot Pokemon of the month or the most OU Pokemon. However that is not the way to go. You know not everyone will do this and about 98% of the people battling, only care about beating people ugly so they will use the best possible Pokemon. Which is my GameFreak needs to update some Pokemon that never get used because their base stats suck.

[Slizer107]

KK, scince when have i ever gone to fast lol. I did read that full post, and wow over 1000, ok, thats freaky. I will now start taking it slow. And now i got half term for 1 week, so ill have plenty time for the next progect =)

[BugCatcher6]

It is one thing to say you will do it, but something else to really do it.

Like I said, I don't want to sound mean. You seem like a nice kid, I just hate seeing people get frustrated with you.

[Slizer107]

Thx buzz, i think i can see more clearly now why you became my teacher. Thx for helping me on this site.

[BugCatcher6]

Thx buzz, i think i can see more clearly now why you became my teacher. Thx for helping me on this site.

Don't thank me. You will more in likely hate me after we are done he-he.

[Slizer107]

:shock: Are u gunna treet me like a slave :shock:

:twisted:Ok its time for mutiny, spurs wanna join me? Lol:twisted:

[spursdude2]

With what? Mutiny??? not more homework!!!

[Nak]

You have been on this forum since December and are already over 1100 post, that is way above even Nak's post count average.No it's not. :p

[Slizer107]

Lol, what u mean more homework, dont talk about school ive just broke up from school.

Hmm i cant w8 to battle apollo.

[piichan]

soccurgirl's inbox is full >.<
wow, the other projects are only a week long. no time for slacking off anymore.

[BugCatcher6]

I made a change in the grading portion and report portion. Instead of Characteristic I meant to ask for Ability. If you have turned in a report already, don't worry about redoing it to just add your Ability.

But in future builds this is what the report will ask for.

Report Information:

Name: The students name.

Pokemon: what Pokémon you are using.
Nickname: Pokémon's nickname for discussion purposes.

Style/Theme: What the Pokémon is designed to do.

Move-set: The moves your Pokémon will use.

Family Tree: What Pokémon you used during breeding and what moves they passed on. Basically your breeding chain.

EVs: How you set your EV spread, should match your Pokémon's strength and purpose.

IVs: Your Pokémon's IV, to tell if the IVs match the Pokémon and it's purpose.

Nature: Nature should enhance your Pokémon's strength and purpose.
Ability: The Ability the Pokemon you bred has.

Any other details you can think of to make your Pokemon more attractive.

[Slizer107]

Luckly my pokemon only has 1 abilty inner focus.

[toys4life]

I am just hoping people turn in reports and teachers grade them and send the results to me. This class seems like it is stale already. Maybe 2 weeks was 2 long to work on the project.

During the farm classes, it seemed like people did not like only having a week to build 1 Pokemon, so this I gave 2 weeks since I had surgery and it seems people are disappearing. I have not heard much about anything from this build since returning.

Hey Buzz...

I don't think that the class has gone stale; I just think that people are working hard, when they can, on there projects. I can't talk for everyone but I have found this semester of classes to be much more challenging. In our first class we were breeding for whatever reason we wanted. Which was fun, I got to pick hard to get moves with long chains for unique Pokemon.

But this class has more of a purpose...I have found it much more challenging to build for battle...there is still room for creativity but there are a lot of moves that are not strong enough for competitive battle and the others are all OU.

When I was talking to my teacher I told him of my concerns with being original vs. strategic. I'm sure if you are seriously using a Pokemon for battle it's moves will resemble someone else's build somewhere. Which was hard for me because every time I thought of a Pokemon or move set it seemed like someone else had already though of it.

I have had fun with my build but it has seemed 10x harder with each step.

On that note I would like to say that I appreciated the 2 weeks to build this time around. Even though some found it to be to much time, I have found that going back to school has taken away a lot of my "Forum Fun Time" and so I needed every day you gave use.

This build has been riddled with problems, first my motherboard frying to a crisp, then my online reference site crashing for half a week, my wireless internet doing some really weird stuff and finally some REALLY bad IV breeds (I can get good IV's...I can get the desired nature...can I get good IV's with the right nature...NOOOOOO!!!!!!)

...But I have had a BLAST throughout because I am learning new things everyday and it is all stuff that I really wanted to learn. I knew nothing about competitive battling and how to breed for it. I know I still have SOOO much to learn but I have also have learned a great deal in the last two weeks.

So have faith buzz...you might not get a full graduating class out of this, but the ones that can stick it out will learn a great deal and hopefully will be able to help you shoulder some of the responsibilities around the forum just like Nak and Belnumcree have come to do.

Nana Nettie is proof of how beneficial your teaching can be...I wish I could say that I was proof of your teaching also, but unfortunately I had to choose my real family before my forum family and instead of starting up my farm I had to focus on going back to school to make myself more marketable in this failing financial market.

...Don't write me off just yet though...The P.O.K.E.R.U.S. Project will come to the Pokefarm Forum someday...I have tons of notes and ideas I just don't have the time to build or the artistic knowledge to bring my farm to life.

P.S. Glad to have you back :D

[michael16]

hang on...
so we have to send a report to each and every teacher?! :eek:
i only no a few of them...

(oops ignore this post i dint read all other posts, soz)

[BugCatcher6]

Thanks T4L, that is something I needed to hear.

I know since coming back from my jaw surgery I have been a bit more aggressive and not as nice as I was before, yes I consider before the surgery as me being nice. I am a strict person and really like enforcing rules. I tend to get a bit overboard on it I know.

So anyway back to the classes. If anyone looked at the grade book I put up, you will notice that this build was 2 weeks long and the next build is only 1 week. Now it may seem I gave 2 weeks for this build only because I was having surgery. I used that as an excuse, but the 2 weeks was really for the build. I think building a lead Pokemon is critical and needs alot of attention. The next build is for sweepers. I don't believe you need as much detail in your sweepers. Basically it is Physical or Special. You only truly need to worry about 1 IV, Attack or Special Attack. Most need Speed or maybe not. Any other IVs you build in is a bonus. Most Sweepers are not really going to sweep threw 6 Pokemon effectively. If you can KO 2 out of 6 consider your sweeper good. So that is why I am only giving a week for that project. The 3rd project will be a wall. Same should go for it and be a week long build. The idea being Defense or Special Defense.

The only thing I wonder is, with 2 weeks of build time for the lead, I wonder how many people started with a Pokemon in mind and changed it after building it? With 2 weeks you should have had time to bred and train and then test and make some changes.

I also like to be original with my Pokemon, but at the same time I realize in competitive battling, you have to use what works. I was hoping with this event people would experiment some and test some new Pokemon, but at the same time I know this is a competition and people still want to perform well. I also know that there is not as much on the breeder's side, but if you want to breed your own battle Pokemon, I think this will help you get a good understanding of breeding for moves, IVs, and Natures, so that is also helping those with farmer dreams.

I have noticed alot of TMs being used in the builds and that really does not grade well for me. I look at each Pokemon while grading them and then look to see if the TMs used could be bred in and if they could, that severely lowers the grade.

[BugCatcher6]

hang on...
so we have to send a report to each and every teacher?! :eek:
i only no a few of them...

That is the great thing about me having a list of teachers and that PokeFarms PMs will send to all of them.

[Slizer107]

Im not sure wether to make mixed, special, phsycal or jack all trades. I think im gunna start looking at attk and sp.attk stats on pokemon see whats best.

[michael16]

er... buzz u weirded me out with that reply :confused:

since i always forget stuf with this class when are the reports to be filled in, and when do the next projects start?

[BugCatcher6]

er... buzz u weirded me out with that reply :confused:

since i always forget stuf with this class when are the reports to be filled in, and when do the next projects start?

Again look at the Grade Book thread. It has the dates for the current project and the next project.

@slizer, you need to look at your current lead and what it can do then decide if you want to keep a theme or add something different. Really the choices should be Physical or Special. I can never really get into a Mixed Sweeper and jack of all trades is not really a sweeper, but an annoyer on steroids.

[Slizer107]

Well im looking via smogon, only at base stats i dont trust there movesets much. But ive found 1 UU that i dont think should be there on smogon but ill be checking pokefarms tier.

Only problem is its a mixed so im not sure, but ive found another i like lol, so many decisions.

[BugCatcher6]

Well im looking via smogon, only at base stats i dont trust there movesets much. But ive found 1 UU that i dont think should be there on smogon but ill be checking pokefarms tier.

1 UU that should not be an UU or should not be on Smogon? Because Smogon is a Pokemon site, so all Pokemon should be there.

[Slizer107]

Hmm, I'm making a list of Pokemon now. I just want to be prepared. There are some that are really a surprise, until you look at there stats you don't realise how good they can be.

[BugCatcher6]

Hmm, I'm making a list of Pokemon now. I just want to be prepared. There are some that are really a surprise, until you look at there stats you don't realise how good they can be.

Stats are not everything. Type, for weaknesses and STABs, Abilities, and even weight can put a surprise into building Pokemon. Take Lanturn, a Water type, but if you have Grass Knot to use, it does not do as much damage since Lanturn is not heavy. Grass Knot does not work well on alot of fish.

[Slizer107]

Well ive got a bunch of pokemon on a list and now im gunna look more into there move pools. Wow i must be bored lol.

[BugCatcher6]

Well ive got a bunch of pokemon on a list and now im gunna look more into there move pools. Wow i must be bored lol.

Or maybe you are starting to think like a battler. I spend days just researching my Pokemon before even starting to make eggs.

[BugCatcher6]

Before this gets to far out of hand I am removing soccergurl22 as a teacher. Her student Trombones13 will need a teacher. Master is the only teacher with 1 student as of right now, so he has the right to take Trombones13 under his wing. If Master does not wish to help another student, then it will be open to any other teacher.

Also I have 4 reports turned in by students so far. No grades from any other teachers. Monday is the deadline for reports, yes 1 extra day since people will be out of town for the weekend. Teachers need to have all grades turned in by Tuesday.

[Master]

I don't want another one.....lol just joking.

Welcome aboard trombones13!

[Trombones13]

Before this gets to far out of hand I am removing soccergurl22 as a teacher. Her student Trombones13 will need a teacher. Master is the only teacher with 1 student as of right now, so he has the right to take Trombones13 under his wing. If Master does not wish to help another student, then it will be open to any other teacher.

Also I have 4 reports turned in by students so far. No grades from any other teachers. Monday is the deadline for reports, yes 1 extra day since people will be out of town for the weekend. Teachers need to have all grades turned in by Tuesday.
Yeah; what happened? We haven't talked in days. However, due to this, I'm behind--like, severely. Hopefully I'll finish, but if not, I'll just turn in what I have now...

I don't want another one.....lol just joking.

Welcome aboard trombones13!
Thank you, Master; a PM is coming your way with what I need.
*thinks of puns involving the word "master"*

[BugCatcher6]

Thanks Master.

Sorry Trombones, If I would have been around earlier I would have fixed the problem when it started.

[Trombones13]

Thanks Master.

Sorry Trombones, If I would have been around earlier I would have fixed the problem when it started.
That's OK; I'll survive. However, Chuckles is poorly IV/EV trained (aka it has none), so it'll come down to the line this time. *gulp* Figures that I'd have Solo & Ensemble early tomorrow morning...

[BugCatcher6]

Hmm I really can't add time just for one student, even though your teacher disappeared. I hate this, but I gave those that would not be around the weekend until Monday to turn in their report. I know 1 extra day is not alot to finish a build. You could always write the report and just give your IVs and what EVs you want it to have and finish EV training it after the build is done.

[Trombones13]

Hmm I really can't add time just for one student, even though your teacher disappeared. I hate this, but I gave those that would not be around the weekend until Monday to turn in their report. I know 1 extra day is not alot to finish a build. You could always write the report and just give your IVs and what EVs you want it to have and finish EV training it after the build is done.
Well, I already know the EVs I want, and I know where its forte is, so I know what I'd want for IVs, too. The thing is, I don't really know how to do this, and I get too overwhelmed with real life. With any luck, I can continue doing this class, because it's really helping me. You shouldn't have to give me extra time; I had two weeks and managed my time poorly. It's all up to you; you are the teacher, after all.

[BugCatcher6]

Truthfully, you don't need your Pokemon EV trained until the Mid-Term Battle. So you can just concentrate on breeding for IVs/Nature/Moves.

EVs you can write them down because they are easy to say I want these EVs and then go get them. IVs are another story where you say oh yeah I am breeding for x / 31 / 31 / x / x / 31, um yeah now breed it he-he.

You can always look at it like this. So you may score low on build 1, it is expected. So when the event is over and you have a team of 6 Pokemon, you may only need to rebuild 1-2 Pokemon. Since each build should get progressively better. Also remember that each build is set to what I want you to build and is just a basic layout for a team. You may opt to not have a wall on your final team and replace it with another sweeper. You may want decide hey I want a fast Swords Dancing Baton Passer and use it to build up a Sweeper and go and KO until your Sweeper faints, so you bring out the Swords Dance Baton Passer again and build up another Sweeper and attack and KO more. Most people are happy using 5 or 6 heavy hitting Pokemon and they could care even less about strategy.

The goal of this is to show every all the options and let them select the best option for them to use. It is suppose to show you how to build a Pokemon to do what you want, but get your curious into looking for something better to do the same thing.

I have another future battle event I am working on as well that will challenge even the Gym Leaders.

[Trombones13]

All right; thanks so much. You've been a huge help. I'll work on it more over the weekend and turn in my report on Sunday (that's OK, right?).

[Master]

Sorry,but everyone who sent me there summary page needs to resend.I accidently deleted them all. hehe

[Slizer107]

1 thing ive found in reaserch is that most rlly powerfull sweepers are rlly slow lol. Im gunna end up using 2 of these so i think ill go with a pokemon i have big trouble with.

Just a note, the pokemon im checking are pokemon with over 100 attk or sp.attk, but most seem to be good in other aspects like pinsir.

[BugCatcher6]

1 thing ive found in reaserch is that most rlly powerfull sweepers are rlly slow lol. Im gunna end up using 2 of these so i think ill go with a pokemon i have big trouble with.

Just a note, the pokemon im checking are pokemon with over 100 attk or sp.attk, but most seem to be good in other aspects like pinsir.

Ones with super high ATK or SP.ATK are not always the best sweepers.

They are more one and done Pokemon.

[BugCatcher6]

I have received 7 reports so far. If any other teachers have received their copy as well, once you grade them please get them to me so I can average the grades out.

Thank You.

[Slizer107]

Yay new progect starts today!

[michael16]

*fautor animus needs to clear his inbox, i cant send my report*

[Kiwi]

I cant send mine to fautor animus either, also, theres onlly 6 teachers now, right?, because soccergurl stopped?

[Trombones13]

I cant send mine to fautor animus either, also, theres onlly 6 teachers now, right?, because soccergurl stopped?
I believe that is correct. Would someone PM if it's not, because I only sent it to 6.

[BugCatcher6]

O.K. never mind. Just send your Reports to me and I will do the grades. I wonder if I am losing another teacher?

[piichan]

I believe that is correct. Would someone PM if it's not, because I only sent it to 6.


Before this gets to far out of hand I am removing soccergurl22 as a teacher.

yes, soccergirl22 is out


O.K. never mind. Just send your Reports to me and I will do the grades. I wonder if I am losing another teacher?
I just sent my report yesterday and he (fautor) replied as well.

[Slizer107]

Yh he replied to mine aswell. So r we starting these today? Btw this next weekend im going away i will be able to work on my pokemon, but not sure abotu wifi.

[Brainhost]

So how are things going to proceed? Are we getting one week off before we receive our next assignments, or are we going to get the weekly stuff right now?
Also, I'm really curious about what everyone has made of their projects. I can't wait to battle everyone!

[Trombones13]

So how are things going to proceed? Are we getting one week off before we receive our next assignments, or are we going to get the weekly stuff right now?
Also, I'm really curious about what everyone has made of their projects. I can't wait to battle everyone!
Look at the Grade Book. It shows what all of the upcoming projects are. This week is the Sweeper.

[Slizer107]

Ive decided on 4 i may do, and 1 i like. But i will need to talk to buzz.

[BugCatcher6]

yes, soccergirl22 is out

I would like this comment explain.

[BugCatcher6]

Grades and comments are post now in the Grade Book under Project 1.

Project 1 Grades & Comments (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?p=61481#postcount2)

[Master]

Congrats to my student brainhost for getting the highest score on the first build!:grin:

[Nak]

So we aren't turning in grades anymore? Sorry, the wine in my steak is dumbing me down. XP

[belnumcree]

So we aren't turning in grades anymore? Sorry, the wine in my steak is dumbing me down. XP

Nope just Buzz grading.

[Nak]

Nope just Buzz grading.

Oh ok. Thanks!

[BugCatcher6]

So we aren't turning in grades anymore? Sorry, the wine in my steak is dumbing me down. XP


I apologize for this. I intended to have the teachers more involved with everything this time around then in my farmer's apprentice classes. However with soccergurl MIA, Fautor Animus was active yesterday, but people saying his inbox is full, and Master not wanting to grade builds, I just decided maybe I will keep to where I am grading.

I am not mad at Master not wanting to grade. It is hard to score others and made judgments based on what someone has wrote down. I have always wanted to be a teacher, so I am rather good at having a set standard in mind and grading on this standard.

[Nak]

I apologize for this. I intended to have the teachers more involved with everything this time around then in my farmer's apprentice classes. However with soccergurl MIA, Fautor Animus was active yesterday, but people saying his inbox is full, and Master not wanting to grade builds, I just decided maybe I will keep to where I am grading.

I am not mad at Master not wanting to grade. It is hard to score others and made judgments based on what someone has wrote down. I have always wanted to be a teacher, so I am rather good at having a set standard in mind and grading on this standard.Not a problem, Buzz. I just wanted a confirmation. Didn't want to end up not turning in the grades when needed.

[BugCatcher6]

I know jearbear was away this weekend and I am expecting his report today. Has anyone heard from Toys4life?

[Nak]

I know jearbear was away this weekend and I am expecting his report today. Has anyone heard from Toys4life?

Ah, I don't think I've received a report from him. I saw him post just yesterday or the day before, I think.

EDIT: Ah, he's online now! XD

[toys4life]

Hello all!

Sorry I was MIA this weekend...

I'm writing up my report now I just wanted to catch up on the tread before I sent it out...you will have my report in just a little bit buzz! :-D

[BugCatcher6]

Hello all!

Sorry I was MIA this weekend...

I'm writing up my report now I just wanted to catch up on the tread before I sent it out...you will have my report in just a little bit buzz! :-D


No problems at all. I gave everyone until today to turn in a report since some members mentioned they would be away this weekend.

I updated the grades in the Grade Book and we now have a new leader in the best grade category.

I don't know why that surprises me, but I know I will be seeing another member coughs nana nettie cough stepping her builds up since she always likes to compete with you.

I like it when students start competing against each other just on the projects and not even to the battle part yet.

To those that are up high in the grades, good job and continue the good work. To those that had a rough start, it will get better. Maybe try digging deeper into your teacher's knowledge pool.

However this build is only 1 week long, so the pressure is on to make a beast in 1 week.

[Slizer107]

This class is so fun =) ill be away this weekend thou, im going to see family. I will be able to work on my pokemon but not be on pokefarm and most probebly not wifi.

[BugCatcher6]

This class is so fun =) ill be away this weekend thou, im going to see family. I will be able to work on my pokemon but not be on pokefarm and most probebly not wifi.

Wi-Fi has very little to do with this event until the mid-term and final. Just make sure if you are not finished with your project, your report can be PM'd by Monday. If you are done with your project your report can be PM'd before the weekend. I just thought of something while typing, I guess wi-fi is important to IV check your Pokemon. Your timezone puts you online early morning here, so I could IV battle you on Monday and you could get a report done by Monday if need be.



Class Note:


I was just wondering, has anyone put any thought into items your project would be using? I never gave them a thought until now.

Extra Credit Project:
The first extra credit project. This is not going to be a hard one. All you need to do is when you send me your report for your Sweeper, you add a line for your Item and then after your report you add a line for your last Project, Pokemon/Nickname/Item.

Remember no duplicate items and the item should match your Pokemon and it's theme. The extra credit will add .50 points to your grade. This is solid points and not considered into the average, so if you get a grade of 3.25, it will then be bumped to 3.75.

[michael16]

so basically, we just say wot the item on our pkmn (and future ones) is and then say wot the item may be for our first one...

[Slizer107]

Yh thats rite.

[BugCatcher6]

Yes, you have one Pokemon already and the current one, that is 2 items. All future reports will need an item listed with the report.

[BugCatcher6]

UPDATE


Unless I hear something out of thejearbear and Fautor Animus tonight, they are both removed from the program. That leaves me looking for a teacher for piichan. Any teacher, besides Master, wanting a 3rd student? I just don't want to keep dumbing teacherless students on Master.

[Babael]

UPDATE


Unless I hear something out of thejearbear and Fautor Animus tonight, they are both removed from the program. That leaves me looking for a teacher for piichan. Any teacher, besides Master, wanting a 3rd student? I just don't want to keep dumbing teacherless students on Master.



I'll take Piichan, both of my students are on track with their second projects so I can pick up another one.

[BugCatcher6]

I'll take Piichan, both of my students are on track with their second projects so I can pick up another one.

Cool deal. Could you PM piichan to let them know? I got a ton of rewriting to do now.

Thanks in advance.

[BugCatcher6]

Now that we are starting our second build and we have lost some students and teachers, I wish to offer a chance to drop out now. If you know you have something coming up that would keep you from being able to do your builds, now is the time to decide.

Also I know this all seems like a joke to some people. I mean in real life my wife laughed when I said I was grading projects. All we are basically doing is sayin what do you want to do and then give ideas of how to do it. The breeding and deciding are all done by the student with me giving a grade on their work. Teachers are mainly to help those that are stuck. Nothing different then posting a thread asking for help, except this way I give a project theme and you try to match it. I hope it is giving people ideas on what to look into for making a team, but I really don't think most of the Pokemon built in this class will be used long term unless you build a beast.

[Slizer107]

Well this weekend im going away friday-sunday but i will have acces to my ds, but does this mean i have to drop out? :confused:

[BugCatcher6]

Well this weekend im going away friday-sunday but i will have acces to my ds, but does this mean i have to drop out? :confused:

Do you ever read every post in it's entirety?

I think I just had mentioned with that last build that those members that posted about going away for the weekend could post their report before their trip or on Monday when they got back. I believe I told you directly, that you could PM your report before you left or if you still needed to work on it, then you could PM it to me Monday since you are on pretty early in my Timezone.

[Slizer107]

*hides* i did read it yesterday i just couldnt remember today

I do read things entirley

But i only read what i wanna read

Lol joke i have started reading things fully promis

*meep*

[BugCatcher6]

*hides* i did read it yesterday i just couldnt remember today

I do read things entirley

But i only read what i wanna read

Lol joke i have started reading things fully promis

*meep*

You always say you promise, but yet everyday it is the same thing. It is no longer a joke.

[Slizer107]

How do you no what i read and what i dont? Different people interpritate things different ways.

[BugCatcher6]

How do you no what i read and what i dont? Different people interpritate things different ways.

Never said I knew what you read. You asked a question that has already been answered, so I naturally assumed you did not read it, which you replied you forgot and you promise to read more carefully and joking or whatever. That is the reason people log out, go invisible, or just ignore you.

You ask the same questions that have been answered and when someone comments about it you say I am sorry, or I forgot, and follow it with I will try not to do it again. So someone makes a comment about that and you come back with a comment that makes it seem the other poster is being directly mean with you. You have not seen mean yet from any member, you have seen many attempts at members trying to keep their cool with a child.

[Nak]

*hides* i did read it yesterday i just couldnt remember today

I do read things entirley

But i only read what i wanna read

Lol joke i have started reading things fully promis

*meep*Meep is not a verb. It's a sound. Maybe in some cases a noun. You can say meep or "meep" but not *meep*. You don't even know what a meep is, do you?

[Slizer107]

Well i just use it cos i hear it alot in the american tv shows i watch lol. I normaly dontm wrote like

*runs in doors*

but i started to when i joined poke farm. Im still learning and so far im falling behind and am trying to catch up (this isnt about my progect its about learnign the rules around here)

My progect ive just got a round 1 parent from some1 so thats good.

[Viscosity]

I know that I'm not part of this class or anything, but I wanted to let everyone who is participating know that you do have an audience here.

I learned a lot just by following Buzz's last class and I want to continue learning by following this one. I would have participated if it were not for real life commitments that keep me away from becoming more involved in breeding.

So please everyone, do your best. :) Even if you're a student here, you're still a rolemodel at teaching watchers like me that even newbies like us can reach greater heights.

[Brainhost]

Cool, Viscosity! I hope you'll be able to make something useful out of our secretive raps and rants; Most of us do not tell what their breeding project is. I reckon you could see the methods we are working with, but that's where it stops. Great that you're still taking interest, though.

I'm having big trouble with the latest project. I can't make a chain this time, so I'll need all TM's. I really hate that.. I love chaining, but it's just not possible... Also, I need an Adamant version of my Pokémon. The Ditto's in leafgreen just won't react to a synchronising Natu, and breeding is giving me a hard time: No Adamant hatches anywhere. I've now transferred my Natu in hopes to catch an Adamant version of the Pokémon I need.

[BugCatcher6]

Someone made mention in a PM that it was not clear why I gave a preselected build for the projects instead of letting the student choose the build. I think that was what the PM meant.

Anyway, I chose a few themes that kinda go together and give the students a chance to pick what Pokemon they will use to accomplish that theme.

It was my understanding that people signed up because they wanted to know how to battle. So what does someone that needs to know about battle know about building a team? Chances are very little. So I gave the basic ideas for that can go into every team. It is the job of the student to then research every option given. Discuss it with their teacher. Find out all their options and build. If it fails, they can figure out why or maybe decide to try something else they heard about.

Also I know this class is not as vocal as the last class. This class people are building a battle team and want to keep it hush hush. So I have thought of a new feature to add in and I will get it wrote up tonight for the first 2 builds. That ways those watching the class can get some information. After I post my writeup, if any other teacher, student, or forum member would like to add to the discussion, that would be awesome.

[Slizer107]

Maybe also we could pm the reserch we did. Cos i did reasherch and thats how i decided my pokemon. Maybe it could be another extra credit.

I bred a good pokemon and just in time, its got

31/30/26/2/0/29

So ill be using this 1, but only thing is its jolly so i may lose points there.

[BugCatcher6]

Maybe also we could pm the reserch we did. Cos i did reasherch and thats how i decided my pokemon. Maybe it could be another extra credit.

I bred a good pokemon and just in time, its got

31/30/26/2/0/29

So ill be using this 1, but only thing is its jolly so i may lose points there.

Is this for the current project or the last project? Because if it is for the current, you have time to keep breeding.

This is what drives me nuts with some of these builds. You can tell who takes all the time to build and who wants to be done in 2 days. I gave 2 weeks for the first build and there was like 2 maybe 3 Pokemon that I saw the IVs and thought, nice. One or two Pokemon did not even have 1 IV at or even near 30.


That is o.k. though. I know this time around with this class type, the grades will not reflect the teachers effort. It is all based on how much the student wants to shine. Watch members like nana nettie, toys4life, Taterbud, and Brainhost. They put a huge effort into their builds. There were a few students right on the edge, but even more that seemed happy to just happy to have their name listed with the others.

Will this class make you the next WestCoastNinja? Most likely not. You have to want to be that good and willing to study and test and watch your opponents. You have to learn something from your battles. You have to learn that not everything will work and will need tweaks.

I got a huge extra credit project for the Mid-Terms. I have only discussed it with 1 other teacher, so even the teachers don't know it yet.

[Babael]

Now I'm curious about this extra credit project, heh

[Master]

I am also wondering what it could be.

[BugCatcher6]

Well I would like to keep it a surprise, but I also suck at keeping surprises a surprise.

O.K. the Mid-Term will consist of a tournament where each student will battle the others with their 3 Pokemon they built. Each win will count as 5 points and each loss count as -4 points. What I put that information in the grade book, oh yeah so you all know this? O.K. the bonus part, each student will also battler their teacher. For each Pokemon they defeat from their teacher's 3 Pokemon team, they will receive 1 point per fainted opponent Pokemon to add towards their final grade.

The teacher's team will consist of themes from the first 3 builds, Lead Style, Sweeper, and Wall.

[Taterbud]

Well I would like to keep it a surprise, but I also suck at keeping surprises a surprise.

O.K. the Mid-Term will consist of a tournament where each student will battle the others with their 3 Pokemon they built. Each win will count as 5 points and each loss count as -4 points. What I put that information in the grade book, oh yeah so you all know this? O.K. the bonus part, each student will also battler their teacher. For each Pokemon they defeat from their teacher's 3 Pokemon team, they will receive 1 point per fainted opponent Pokemon to add towards their final grade.

The teacher's team will consist of themes from the first 3 builds, Lead Style, Sweeper, and Wall.

Aww man, that doesn't seem very fair... I mean, our teachers will know all of our pkmn and know how to counter them since they'll know their moves and their strengths, along w/ their weaknesses, I mean, I'm sure it might be fun, it just doesn't seem to fair though.:(

[BugCatcher6]

Aww man, that doesn't seem very fair... I mean, our teachers will know all of our pkmn and know how to counter them since they'll know their moves and their strengths, along w/ their weaknesses, I mean, I'm sure it might be fun, it just doesn't seem to fair though.:(

You don't expect me to just give extra credit away do you he-he.

Also, there have been people that battled in my Gym multiple times, and have seen all my Pokemon, and still lose. Knowing your opponent means nothing if you don't have the means to take care of it.

I would think the teachers would use Pokemon that they currently use in their teams, and not really hurry up and breed new ones to ocunter what you have built. I know my students will face my lead, sweeper, and wall from my Gym Team.

[nana nettie]

I agree with you Tater :wink: I don't like the idea of having a battle against my teacher :sad: Come on, talk about David and Goliath :rolleyes:
I think the Principal fell off his rocker :lol::lol:

*Nana run's to make special exlax brownies for Principal Buzz*

[Taterbud]

I agree with you Tater :wink: I don't like the idea of having a battle against my teacher :sad: Come on, talk about David and Goliath :rolleyes:
I think the Principal fell off his rocker :lol::lol:

*Nana run's to make special exlax brownies for Principal Buzz*

Yay!.. I mean,... I had nothing to do w/ it Principal Buzz.:D It was all...*points at T4L* his idea.:D:D He made Nana do it,... I saw him.:D
I understand that the points would be extra credit and all, I just don't think that it's very fair, but since they are "extra credit," and they don't really count against us, it's not like it'll kill us to battle against our betters.:)

[nana nettie]

Yay!.. I mean,... I had nothing to do w/ it Principal Buzz.:D It was all...*points at T4L* his idea.:D:D He made Nana do it,... I saw him.:D
I understand that the points would be extra credit and all, I just don't think that it's very fair, but since they are "extra credit," and they don't really count against us, it's not like it'll kill us to battle against our betters.:)

Tater, I never thought I'd say this to you, but wipe those brownies off your nose :rolleyes: :lol::lol:jk

[BugCatcher6]

My main purpose for it is not to really give you extra credit, but to give you extra knowledge. The nature of this event does not really let us talk strategy. Nobody wants to talk about their Pokemon, battlers Pokemon have to be kept secret.

So I thought, if you see your teachers use their Pokemon and you battle the entire class to see how they use theirs, you can see the do's and don'ts of battling.

I so wanted to do the projects like the farmer apprentice classes. Here is your selection of Pokemon choose one and let me know. O.K. you chose Pokemon X, here is what it needs to do. But being that this is battling, I did not want to create an event where everyone's team could be the same. I so wish we could talk more strategy on these builds, but keeping everyone's Pokemon quiet is something I have to respect.

Unless maybe we get the teachers to do a Mach build for each project and discuss how to use the Pokemon they selected.

[Slizer107]

Well wont you feel even better if you beat your teacher in a gym batle, or in a tournament when they no your team inside out? I no when i beat babale (if i ever do lol) i will feel amazing cos she helped me with my old team.

Btw buzz those ivs were for the sweeper progect.

[Trombones13]

Well I would like to keep it a surprise, but I also suck at keeping surprises a surprise.

O.K. the Mid-Term will consist of a tournament where each student will battle the others with their 3 Pokemon they built. Each win will count as 5 points and each loss count as -4 points. What I put that information in the grade book, oh yeah so you all know this? O.K. the bonus part, each student will also battler their teacher. For each Pokemon they defeat from their teacher's 3 Pokemon team, they will receive 1 point per fainted opponent Pokemon to add towards their final grade.

The teacher's team will consist of themes from the first 3 builds, Lead Style, Sweeper, and Wall.
Sweet... I just told Master yesterday that I wanted to battle him when I was done. Guess I'll get my wish!

[Nak]

I would think the teachers would use Pokemon that they currently use in their teams, and not really hurry up and breed new ones to ocunter what you have built. I know my students will face my lead, sweeper, and wall from my Gym Team.

Ah, but I already do that with my students! I guess I'll be doing assignments with them now as well. :mrgreen: *pulls out breeding kit* This'll be fun! ^_^

[belnumcree]

*quickly makes up a counter list for my students pokemon* lol j/k

To even it out I think I'll just tell my students what I'm bringing. :D "Get back in your Pokeball Luna" :D lol

[toys4life]

*quickly makes up a counter list for my students pokemon* lol j/k

To even it out I think I'll just tell my students what I'm bringing. :D "Get back in your Pokeball Luna" :D lol

LOL! Some how I'm sure you already know how to counter my team and you probably already have the Pokemon you need to do it!!! :wink:

No matter I've been beaten by WCN enough to know that you can't win them all but you learn something new from every battle.

So yeah...can't wait till I get beaten by my teacher after mid terms :rolleyes:
"Thank you sir, may I have another!" <--Name that Movie Taterbud :wink: hehe

[Slizer107]

Oh yh in mid terms all the students dunna get inmulsified! Jk naa it will be fun to see how the students do. Cso would it be considerd handicaped for the students?

[Brainhost]

Hehe. On the night Master and I introduced ourselves to each other, he packed me up; I lost heavily at battle (5-0, I think). Mid-terms will be the time to get back at him. I can't wait B)

[Slizer107]

It will probebly be a close match in any1s case. No 1 will forget to ahve fun. Well i hope not.

[Babael]

I have some random pokemon I can use for this, I'll tell my student's what pokemon I'm bringing, even we know each other's move sets, unless they can predict my thoughts it'll be just like any other battle. The only difference it they'll know which move set you'll be using. How should we teachers do this?





Well wont you feel even better if you beat your teacher in a gym batle, or in a tournament when they no your team inside out? I no when i beat babale (if i ever do lol) i will feel amazing cos she helped me with my old team.

Btw buzz those ivs were for the sweeper progect.

That's all well in good, but I'd feel better about beating my mentor if I battled and beat their 'real' team, not some handicapped gym team.

[Slizer107]

I want to win in both =), well i got 1 more stat to ev train, then leveling up lol.

[Taterbud]

LOL! Some how I'm sure you already know how to counter my team and you probably already have the Pokemon you need to do it!!! :wink:

No matter I've been beaten by WCN enough to know that you can't win them all but you learn something new from every battle.

So yeah...can't wait till I get beaten by my teacher after mid terms :rolleyes:
"Thank you sir, may I have another!" <--Name that Movie Taterbud :wink: hehe

@T4L: National Lampoon's Animal House. XP

Yeah, Nak already makes us battle her with our projects, so I guess we as her students are already ahead of the game.:D

[Nak]

@T4L: National Lampoon's Animal House. XP

Yeah, Nak already makes us battle her with our projects, so I guess we as her students are already ahead of the game.:DYes, I will be training more Pokemon to be your punching bags as well. :D

[Babael]

Yes, I will be training more Pokemon to be your punching bags as well. :D


Perhaps I should start doing this with my students as well. Thanks for the idea, Nak. *plants a flower on your head*

[Master]

I have battle brainhost twice(both 5-0 wins for me) I can't wait for the 3v3 though, it really changes how you battle.

[BugCatcher6]

That is the thing though, you will only be able to use a Pokemon that matches the build types the students were allowed to build.

Build 1 was:
Baton Passer(Passes on stat boosting or other Pokemon helping moves.)
Annoyer(Status Inflicter.)
Hazard(Spikes, Toxic Spikes, or Stealth Rock.)
Hazer(Uses Haze to stop stat raisers.)
Rapid Spinner(Stops Hazards.)
Shuffler(Kinda same as an Annoyer, inflicts status and then roar/whirlwind on to another Pokemon.)Build 2 is:
Physical Sweeper(Uses Physical Attacks and Attack Stat to fuel it's attacks.)
Special Sweeper(Uses Special Attacks and Special Attack Stats to fuel it's attacks.)
Mixed Sweeper(Uses Physical/Special Attacks and Attack/Special Attack Stats to fuel it's attacks.)
Jack of all Trades(It uses other moves besides Attacks, but mainly is an attacker first and just uses a side move once in awhile. Example: A Pokémon that has a healing move, but is an all out attacker.)Build 3 will be:
Physical Wall(This wall is designed to take Physical damage with a high Defense Stat.)
Special Wall(This wall is designed to take Special damage with a high Special Defense Stat.)
Mixed Wall(This wall is designed to try and take Physical/Special damage with a high Defense/Special Defense Stat.)
Specialty Wall(A Specialty wall is designed to come in and block a certain weakness you know your team has. Example: Bringing in Togekiss when your opponent will be using Earthquake. Togekiss has decent Defense/Special Defense to absorb alot of attacks, but the typing of it does not make for an effective Wall, so it is a Specialty Wall.)So with that being the choices, I am sure most of the teachers have something that fit that, so having something that could counter your students perfectly may not be in the cards. I for one will be using my Gym Team Pokemon, maybe, depends on if I have anything new bred by then.

[Nak]

Perhaps I should start doing this with my students as well. Thanks for the idea, Nak. *plants a flower on your head*Ooh, oh! I hope it's tulip. I'm allergic to daisies. *sneezes* I'll keel yooooouse... >w<

Oh, I just wanted to point out that this program is really fun. It shows a lot of creativity and gives you new perspectives on battling. As my students learn from me, I learn from them as well.

[Master]

That ain't good for me, my hazard is also my wall! I guess i will just have two walls,lol.

[Nak]

That ain't good for me, my hazard is also my wall! I guess i will just have two walls,lol.Lol, I have a Hazard, Shuffler, and Wall in one Pokemon. It gets confusing. XD

[Trombones13]

Unh... You people are so confusing with all your Pokemon fancy-talk. It's like you guys have graduated Pokemon 104 and I'm still leafing through Pokemon Battling for Dummies...

[Babael]

That ain't good for me, my hazard is also my wall! I guess i will just have two walls,lol.

My physical wall is a hazard and a phazer, I share your confusion Nak.

[Slizer107]

My hazer is also kinda an anoyer as it has a sleep inflicting move.

Ive full ev trained my pokemon =)