PokeFarm March Breeder's Cup Tournament

[HMTKSteve]

I know we skipped February but March we are coming back!

Yes, test your breeding skills and earn a shiny Pokemon (and possibly something else) by competing in the March Breeder's Cup Tournament!

RULES:

1. No hold items will be allowed.
2. We will be using a Swiss system. If you do not know what that means the simple explanation is that one loss will not knock you out of the tournament so you must be able to commit to a full day of battling.
3. Participating members can not have more than 10 current infraction points against them.
4. Moves such as Sonicboom and Dragon Rage that do guaranteed damage points are not allowed.

POKEMON:

1. Because all Pokemon must be hatched by you this also means no legendaries.
2. Yes, I know Manaphy hatches from an egg but you can not breed a Manaphy, which makes it not legal for this tournament.
3. You can not have more than one of the same Pokemon on your team.
4. All Pokemon must be level 1.
5. All Pokemon must be hatched by you and have your trainer ID.
6. You will only use three Pokemon.
7. You can only use the first evolution of three stage Pokemon. If the Pokemon does not evolve you can not use it!
8. No baby Pokemon.

PRIZE:

1. I have a shiny Pokemon (not telling which one yet 'cause I might get a better one to give away)

DATE:

March 28 - 30, 2008

QUESTIONS:

1. Post your questions in this thread.

[Bobreeder]

Will the entrants be allowed to use Vitamins on the bred Pokemon? I'm not gonna enter, too many infraction points, but I would if I could :-)

[BugCatcher6]

So any 1st stage of any 3 evolution Pokemon, but no babies.


Bulbasaur
Charmander
Squirtle
Caterpie
Weedle
Pidgey
Nidoran♀
Nidoran♂
Zubat
Oddish
Poliwag
Abra
Machop
Bellsprout
Geodude
Slowpoke
Magnemite
Gastly
Rhyhorn
Horsea
Porygon
Dratini
Chikorita
Cyndaquil
Totodile
Mareep
Hoppip
Swinub
Larvitar
Treecko
Torchic
Mudkip
Wurmple
Lotad
Seedot
Ralts
Slakoth
Nincada
Whismur
Aron
Trapinch
Duskull
Snorunt
Spheal
Bagon
Beldum
Turtwig
Chimchar
Piplup
Starly
Shinx
Gible Does that look about right? I had a list already made up, but edited out the babies and some like Clamperl and Eevee.

[WestCoastNinja]

Awsome now I dont have to worry about Zangoose and Aerodactyl.


I am in.

[lordlogan2]

can i be in i have 2 infractions but they didnt give my infraction points up

[cisco]

I have a question. Can we put TM's on the pkmn? I doubt the answer is "No" but I just wanted to make sure :P

[Jhamin]

Well it looks like I won't be able to use my Aerodactyl/Eevee/Relicanth team this time around. All three are now illegal. :lol:

And rightly so.


I'm in.

[BugCatcher6]

I am having a hard time deciding on a team, but I am in. I would like Steve to comment on the list I put up. If any 3 evolution Pokemon were missed, I am sure someone would let it be know.


Also, this is eerily similar to the B Button Tournament he-he.

[WestCoastNinja]

Can it be 6 per team? It dosent take long to breed these guys and 3v3 is too short of a battle. Its still good but 6v6 would be twice the fun.

[HMTKSteve]

Buzz - Your list looks about right to me.

WCN - 3v3 works best for this, I want the battles to be quick.

Bobreeder - If you want to use vitamins (or TMs/HMs) there is nothing to stop you. The Pokemon simply must be level 1 and bred by you. If you really work your butt off it is possible to get a Gible with a high enough happiness to use the Move Tutor on him to learn Draco Meteor.

lordlogan2 - As long as you have less than 10 infraction points by the time of the tournament you will be fine.

[BugCatcher6]

You can add all the Vitamins you want at level 1, but there is a limit to what the stat will raise to. Mostly like 2-4 points in HP and 1 maybe 2 in all other stats.

[Kay]

I would like to try my hand at this, but that is the weekend of my spring break and I might be somewhere that has no WiFi (I don't know the internet status of the place where I might be staying)- so how far in advance do we need to announce that we cannot participate if that happens to be the case?

[HMTKSteve]

How about 3 days out if you need to cancel?

[Kay]

That works for me! Sign me up, then. :)

[Bobreeder]

Just a suggestion for a rule, no dragon rage! Doing 40 HP to the opposition, will 1HKO any of the Pokemon we can use, and with an agility, or even by itself, Pokemon like Dratini and Horsea would just pwn everyone...

[BugCatcher6]

Dragon Rage does 40 damage.
Sonicboom does 20 damage, but nothing to Ghost.

I thought there was another move or two that did a guaranteed amount of damage? I thought it was another 20 damage move?

[Bobreeder]

Maybe it is, but you could just ban fixed amount of damage moves, except for the Seismic Toss ones who will be useless anyway, 11-13HKOing things won't give you any award...

[LovelyStrife]

I think this would be fun. I doubt that I would be free the entire day of the 21st, though, due to work...

[BugCatcher6]

A new rule has been added for the guaranteed damage moves.

Can anyone think of any other moves like Dragon Rage and Sonicboom?

I thought there was another move that did a guaranteed 20 damage besides Sonicboom?

[Pigen1]

Sign me up woohoo! Im soo excited but 'm having issues picking my next 2 team mates. Gonna be having some restless nights. Thanks Steve!;)

[BugCatcher6]

I know Steve will have a sign up thread, but I thought I would start a list for him.


WestCoastNinja - 4510 7090 8948
Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923
BugCatcher6 - 2706 8743 6257
Kay - 3436 9889 7174
Pigen1 - 5283 9543 9987
Sartory - 0130 0524 9567

[Sartory]

Count me in! Ive got my team all planned out heh-heh.:D

[NikolaTesla]

Sounds like quite the challenge. It really tests the breeders skill and it will put their strategy to the test.

[BugCatcher6]

Sounds like quite the challenge. It really tests the breeders skill and it will put their strategy to the test.

From what I saw in the last one, IVs mean very little at level 1. Your Nature and your move-set predicts the battle. Also being able to outsmart your opponent is key. I picked up a lot of tricks in the last Breeder's Cup. I have a lot of work to do to make my team, but I am very confident in the Pokémon I have chosen.

[pikachu-rocks]

Sorry Inappropriet Thread

Please Delete This Post

[Viscosity]

^_^;; I don't think you have to worry. This forum is very good about keeping out the hackers, besides, this tournament disqualifies the use of non-breedable pokemon.

[pikachu-rocks]

please sign me up

[BugCatcher6]

please sign me up

The rules stated the Pokemon that you could use for this tournament. The sign up thread is where you sign up and is located here. (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=4704)

[lordlogan2]

aipom isnt on your list? sorry i just read that it has to have 3 evos

[BugCatcher6]

Hey I just have to ask Steve. Is there going to be an infraction anytime for no shows to tournaments? Just the Administrator in me, but I think when you sign up for a tournament you should show the same respect to the tournament holder you would the Gyms and have to give a notice or some kinda reason why you could not battle. It may narrow down all the sign up and vanish members from tournaments.

[HMTKSteve]

Yes, same as missing a Gym Battle.

[BugCatcher6]

Yes, same as missing a Gym Battle.

I never understand the no showing. It takes 5 minutes if that to drop a PM.

Course I have OCD so changing things bother me and no showing breaks a time quirk I have. I always had to be 30 minutes early to work every night.

[Sartory]

oh noes! I'l be here on the 30th, but on the 28-29th I'm going to be in California and I'm pretty sure theres no wi-fi on the plane O.o! and I already have two members ready for battle, aaaaauughhhs!XD!!!

[FatherGoblin]

Just so I am understanding this correctly...

This tournament is on Easter weekend?
The weekend where all the gyms were suppose to close?
The weekend that was suppose to encourage people not to battle?

http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=4552

[HMTKSteve]

Is that Easter weekend? I did not look at the Calendar when I planned it out.

I'll push it out a week then.

[belnumcree]

Oh jeez I forgot all about the closing thing. :oops: lol

[Kay]

Okay so to get this straight in my head it is now the last weekend in March, aye?

[BugCatcher6]

Just so I am understanding this correctly...

This tournament is on Easter weekend?
The weekend where all the gyms were suppose to close?
The weekend that was suppose to encourage people not to battle?

http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=4552

Nice catch FatherGoblin.

I forgot what dates we were doing that he-he.

If it is the last week of March, 29-31, I may be able to battle in the tournament then.

Cool deal thanks again FatherGoblin.

[Pigen1]

Ok so its been moved to the 29-31st for sure? Also what about the move horndrill which is automatic KO if it hits, would that be allowed?

[BugCatcher6]

Ok so its been moved to the 29-31st for sure? Also what about the move horndrill which is automatic KO if it hits, would that be allowed?

If you want to use a move with 30% accuracy to do like 12 damage, I don't think it would be a problem.

[Pigen1]

Hey Hey Hey 30% aint bad odds if your in a pinch. 30% is more than enough (getting choked up) to keep hope alive. LOL!

[BugCatcher6]

Hey Hey Hey 30% aint bad odds if your in a pinch. 30% is more than enough (getting choked up) to keep hope alive. LOL!

This is your first Breeder's Cup right? Battling a level 1 Pokemon is a complete 180 degrees difference then battling at any other level.

[Pigen1]

Yeah and i'm so excited! just curious if a Ko move was allowed. Don't know if i would use it seeing the accuracy level. As great as it would be for a one hit KO 30% is a long shot.

[BugCatcher6]

Yeah and i'm so excited! just curious if a Ko move was allowed. Don't know if i would use it seeing the accuracy level. As great as it would be for a one hit KO 30% is a long shot.

If you have the type advantage it is almost OHKO. Most Pokemon will faint in the 2nd round. So it is best to have a quicker Pokemon with a Stat Boost and then Attack. That is not my strategy, but one I will give out he-he.

[Pigen1]

Sweet! Food for thought. Having trouble coming up with my third this three evo clause is a tuffy for people who are limited to the D/P pokes. (just started fire red and emerald to fill the dex.) I feel like a little kid waiting to see what he got on a school project that he really put his heart into. LOL can't wait!

[BugCatcher6]

Sweet! Food for thought. Having trouble coming up with my third this three evo clause is a tuffy for people who are limited to the D/P pokes. (just started fire red and emerald to fill the dex.) I feel like a little kid waiting to see what he got on a school project that he really put his heart into. LOL can't wait!

One tip, think Shinx.

[Kay]

I'm sure if you asked many people here would be happy to give you a pokemon from the other games that you could breed for the tournament. :)

[Pigen1]

I'm sure they would and it would be much appreciated but for me it makes it even more interesting to see what i can come up with with what i have. ;)

[HMTKSteve]

One-Hit-Knock-Out moves are legal for this tournament. They tend to have very low accuracy.

Thea reason flat damage attacks are banned is that at level one most of those will assure a 100% instant knock-out.

Yes, forcing you to use the first stage of three stage Pokemon does make things harder if you only have access to D/P Pokemon. But, as was mentioned above, site members would trade you others if you asked them.

Also, if you think the three-stage Pokemon rule for this tournament is interesting wait until you see what I have cooked up for next month!

[Pigen1]

Cant wait to see the next Challenge! It all just forces me to be the best trainer and breeder possible. I still have a ways to go but im getting there. Im trying to play all 3 generations @ once. I just bought Fire red and Emerald to try and fill the dex on D/P and have all my options open. :D

[T roo]

what about phione? Can we use it?

[BugCatcher6]

what about phione? Can we use it?

The rules say 3 stage evolving Pokemon and no babies. Last time I checked, Phione was a baby & did not have 3 evolutions.

[T roo]

o ok. I didn't think about it that way.

[NikolaTesla]

So is the poke tournament still on the 28th? I just finished my team...

[BugCatcher6]

So is the poke tournament still on the 28th? I just finished my team...

Oh now I have to get back in. Not everyday you get to kick your battle mentor's butt he-he.

[NikolaTesla]

I think once is more than enough ;)

You may be the king of IV's but I've got moves like a crazy rabid fox.


Oh now I have to get back in. Not everyday you get to kick your battle mentor's butt he-he.

[BugCatcher6]

I think once is more than enough ;)

You may be the king of IV's but I've got moves like a crazy rabid fox.

Oh see now it is on he-he. I was in the last breeder's cup and lost, but I picked up a few tricks. I have yet to finish my team, but level 1 Pokemon only require breeding no EVs he-he.

[NikolaTesla]

I look forward to it. Mwa ha ha ha

[BugCatcher6]

I look forward to it. Mwa ha ha ha

What's the odds we get paired together to battle first he-he.

[NikolaTesla]

You'd have to have connections to arrange that battle. </irony>


Side note what time does this shin dig start?

[BugCatcher6]

I don't remember seeing a time.

[NeonZRO]

2 stage pkmn are ok right? Like scyther for example?

[BugCatcher6]

POKEMON:

1. Because all Pokemon must be hatched by you this also means no legendaries.
2. Yes, I know Manaphy hatches from an egg but you can not breed a Manaphy, which makes it not legal for this tournament.
3. You can not have more than one of the same Pokemon on your team.
4. All Pokemon must be level 1.
5. All Pokemon must be hatched by you and have your trainer ID.
6. You will only use three Pokemon.
7. You can only use the first evolution of three stage Pokemon. If the Pokemon does not evolve you can not use it!
8. No baby Pokemon.


Says 3 stages there.

[monkie]

oh I have possibly the greatest team on earth sign me up and watch me destroy you all!!!!! LOL ok can you just send me a pm showing how this whole thing will work please!!

Fc: 4167 3857 4179

[belnumcree]

oh I have possibly the greatest team on earth sign me up and watch me destroy you all!!!!! LOL ok can you just send me a pm showing how this whole thing will work please!!

Fc: 4167 3857 4179

The rules are on the first page. And the sign up thread is here (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=4704).

[Sartory]

I'm gonna hav 2 drop out :'( 'cause i a'int gonna be here during the tourney. I'll leave the group and get on with my life...A.K.A stop working on my amazing Gible Sweeper O.o, Over and Out!

[Bobreeder]

I am sory, but I will have to drop out too, because the internet connection where I am going is kinda troublesome at times, and I would probably DC every other battle, and that wouldn't be good...Will leave the group!

[Pigen1]

Now when we say No hold items does that include berries? Cause to me berries aren't hold items all though they are held. LOL Just curious.

[HMTKSteve]

Now when we say No hold items does that include berries? Cause to me berries aren't hold items all though they are held. LOL Just curious.

Yup, no berries.

[BugCatcher6]

Maybe you should have a verification for those still interested in battling. A lot of people signed up and to have half no show for the tournament puts a strain on things.

[T roo]

So is the entire tournament going to be done in 1 day?

[HMTKSteve]

No, over the course of a few days.

[BugCatcher6]

Why keep score if it is a 1 loss and done tournament?

[HMTKSteve]

Why keep score if it is a 1 loss and done tournament?

RULES:

2. We will be using a Swiss system. If you do not know what that means the simple explanation is that one loss will not knock you out of the tournament so you must be able to commit to a full day of battling.

[T roo]

When I read that rule that's what made me think it was all 1 day:oops:

[Kay]

Yeah, that makes me have a question - if we have to commit to a full day of battling, but it's spread out over a few days, does that mean we actually have to commit to a few days of nonstop battling? Because I can't commit that much time to it. Can we maybe get some sort of idea of how the timing of this thing is going to work?

[T roo]

Yeah I'm going to need the answer to that to.

[HMTKSteve]

As soon as everyone sends me their team information you can begin to schedule battles. The bulk of the battles should be completed during the tournament dates. IOW, if you can get some battles in early great, if not just get them done over the tournament dates.

[BugCatcher6]

I still have to finish up some breeding and then hope I have the time to battle everyone. I will let you know by the 26th I guess.

[razorbeam]

As soon as everyone sends me their team information you can begin to schedule battles. The bulk of the battles should be completed during the tournament dates. IOW, if you can get some battles in early great, if not just get them done over the tournament dates.

does that mean , i can send PM to battle as early as now ?

[HMTKSteve]

does that mean , i can send PM to battle as early as now ?

Yes, once your team is ready you can commence battling. However, you still need to be available during the tournament dates for battles because not all members will be able to battle prior to those dates.

This helps those who live in very different time zones (Australia to U.K) to get battles in early.

There are currently 16 people signed up so getting in more battles will help you score higher.

[Pigen1]

How will we know who is ready for battle? Should we pm the people that have posted on the battle records thread? or will the battles be pre selected for us?

[HMTKSteve]

It is up to you to arrange your battles. This is not an elimination battle format.

[Pigen1]

So if anyone is ready to battle I am ready I will always be on my AIM (pigen1) so you can instant message me when u are ready and i will let you know if i can battle at the time.
Note: I work in a school during the week so i cant battle b4 3:30pm NYC time.
Thanks

[Kay]

How exactly does this work? Are we to battle each person only once, or can there be repeat battles? I get the score and everything but I'm a little confused on the details. Is there a "directions" post that I missed? :confused:

[T roo]

So do you to assign me my person to battle or doI just battle one of the sign uped ones?

[WestCoastNinja]

We have to battle each person once. The person who won the most battles wins the whole thing. In the event of a tie the person with the highest score wins. Correct me if im wrong Steve. :D

[HMTKSteve]

WestCoastNinja is correct. You do not battle someone more than once and you arrange your own battles. It is up to you to arrange the battles between other participants. This is not an elimination tournament.

[mewmaster]

If im right twister is a gauranteed damage move

[WestCoastNinja]

Nope its not.

[BugCatcher6]

I just sent in my team and made my battle record thing. I am going to do a test battle to check over my team and after that I am open for any battles from anyone in the tournament.

[HMTKSteve]

I might not have made this clear in the original PM but "Pokemon Name" does not mean "Pokemon Nickname". At least 5 of you have PMed me your team listing using the Pokemon's nickname.

[BugCatcher6]

I might not have made this clear in the original PM but "Pokemon Name" does not mean "Pokemon Nickname". At least 5 of you have PMed me your team listing using the Pokemon's nickname.

I figured you have the little trophy beside your badge so you were in the tournament, so why would I give you the actual Pokemon.

[WestCoastNinja]

Hey I never thought of that! Are you competing Steve?

[BugCatcher6]

I was just wondering where like half the people with the little trophy badge deal are. I only see about 6 people in the battle records. My understanding was teams had to be submitted by the 26th. That is why my team was not what I wanted it to be, but the 3 I chose fit together well. I did not see the option to remove myself from the group so I figured I would still battle with what I had, there was something about an infraction that was the same level of no showing in a Gym, would it not mean if you have the trophy badge but never battle that is kinda a no show?

[Jhamin]

Well, I read "by the 26th" to mean that we had until tomorrow to submit our teams.

I have a bit of last minute breeding to do, but will have everyone ready by tomorrow.

[BugCatcher6]

Well, I read "by the 26th" to mean that we had until tomorrow to submit our teams.

I have a bit of last minute breeding to do, but will have everyone ready by tomorrow.

Thats what I got from it as well, but I figured when it was stated that people could start battling after their teams were entered, that more people would be ready since we did pick up an extra week. My week has been :(:(:(:( so I just finished my team Monday at the hospital. Did not get to IV check 2/3 of my team.

[HMTKSteve]

Hey I never thought of that! Are you competing Steve?

It would not be fair if I competed.

[BugCatcher6]

It would not be fair if I competed.

You are on the list for the group, that is why I sent nicknames not real Pokémon.

[NikolaTesla]

I might not have made this clear in the original PM but "Pokemon Name" does not mean "Pokemon Nickname". At least 5 of you have PMed me your team listing using the Pokemon's nickname.

You should of said Pokemon Type or Pokemon Breed ;)


Anyway I just moved and finally got my internet up and running I am ready to rock!!

[Kay]

I am picking up my router from the P.O. today so anyone who wants to/can, I can start setting up battle times, now! :)

[BugCatcher6]

I am able to do any remaining battles, just PM me or post a time. Friday and Sunday should be open, Saturday I will be at the Hospital all day, so I cannot battle until real late.

[NikolaTesla]

To anyone who wants PM me whenever you are ready to battle.

I will be here all day.

[BugCatcher6]

Just wanted to say nice battle to Pigen1, but I can't believe I lost he-he. If I would have mixed things up a bit, I think I could have won, but not knowing your team made me make the choices I did.

Still a great battle and you took a huge risk at the end, which if you missed it was game over for you and if it hit, well the OHKO you did pull off. Although I am not a risk taker, you had it working for you.

[Kay]

My router is up and I'm available for battle all day today until around 9 pm. PM me to battle, and I'll be able to, unless I'm already battling someone of course :)

[BugCatcher6]

My router is up and I'm available for battle all day today until around 9 pm. PM me to battle, and I'll be able to, unless I'm already battling someone of course :)

I'll get my DS started and meet you in wi-fi.

[Kay]

Interesting strategy, Buzz! I like. :) Fun battle.

[BugCatcher6]

Interesting strategy, Buzz! I like. :) Fun battle.

Yeah I have not been getting my strategy to work right the last 3 battles. I have faced everything I thought I would, knowing the possible Pokemon that may be commonly used in the tournament like this. Your switched messed up my tactic.

And not to sound mean, but man you took forever to select a move. That really threw me off. I think I fell asleep twice he-he.

[Kay]

*sheepish* Sorry about that. I over analyze things as well as not remembering the accuracy and power of the moves my little dudes have so I had to do frequent move checks. :( I'll get better.

What switch messed up your tactic? Can you PM me about it? :)

[Pigen1]

Kay is no JOKE!!!!! LOL she is a force to be reckoned with. And yeah ur switch out messed me up too besides me forgetting that i had a move that would have had x2 damage to one of urs lol. But thats how you learn i guess. I'm having a blast! :D
@ Kay: Isn't Buzz's idea clever when i saw it my jaw just dropped. Would have never thought of that.

[NikolaTesla]

I'm battling Kay next, I just hope I don't get slaughtered again >_<

Pigen1 made me ashamed to even try playing :lol:

[Kay]

Man, I got scared for a minute - and then on top of that my stylus slipped and I hit the complete wrong move >_< I'm sure you noticed :-P

Great battle, I enjoyed it! :D

[NikolaTesla]

Man, I got scared for a minute - and then on top of that my stylus slipped and I hit the complete wrong move >_< I'm sure you noticed :-P

Great battle, I enjoyed it! :D

Giving me a false sense of security, that's just mean!! ;)

[razorbeam]

i am sorry to all who are expecting to battle me. I will be away and coming back Sunday evening and this means i will miss the tournament.

I just sent a PM to Steve that i have to drop out. too bad, i wont be able to use my special babies. My apologies to all. :(

[NikolaTesla]

i am sorry to all who are expecting to battle me. I will be away and coming back Sunday evening and this means i will miss the tournament.

I just sent a PM to Steve that i have to drop out. too bad, i wont be able to use my special babies. My apologies to all. :(

Sorry to hear that Razor I was really looking forward to it. Have a great weekend!

[Jhamin]

i am sorry to all who are expecting to battle me. I will be away and coming back Sunday evening and this means i will miss the tournament.

I just sent a PM to Steve that i have to drop out. too bad, i wont be able to use my special babies. My apologies to all. :(

As am I. Whenever we play you tend to beat me down with whatever strategy I hadn't planned on. I was looking foreward to seeing how you did it this time. ;)

[BugCatcher6]

Kay is no JOKE!!!!! LOL she is a force to be reckoned with. And yeah ur switch out messed me up too besides me forgetting that i had a move that would have had x2 damage to one of urs lol. But thats how you learn i guess. I'm having a blast! :D
@ Kay: Isn't Buzz's idea clever when i saw it my jaw just dropped. Would have never thought of that.

Tactic was not as clever as I thought he-he. It does well, but the damage is lacking. I will go into more detail on how the team is suppose to work after the tournament.

[Pigen1]

Just wondering if anyone has set up battles with T roo, lordlogan2, and PokemasterSD? Cause i haven't recived a response from any of them.
@ Buzz: Sweet! i would love to learn more about ur thoughts on that.

[BugCatcher6]

I have not seen either in some time. Happens every tournament, no shows after all the talk.

[Pigen1]

Shucks! i need the battles lol, i wanna try and get out of the negative zone at least.:lol:

[BugCatcher6]

I am half tempted to ask for rematches he-he. Just to play around with this team more.

[Jhamin]

I think rematches would be fun, no posting of results of course.:)


And as for the no-shows, technically they have until the end of the day Sunday. Some people are still at work/school, have sporting events tonight, or heck...even a date.

I don't doubt we will get some no-shows, but I'm guessing that a bunch of folk will show up tomorrow or Sunday.


Tactic was not as clever as I thought he-he. It does well, but the damage is lacking. I will go into more detail on how the team is suppose to work after the tournament.

I'd really like a (voluntary) thread devoted to team tactics after the tourney is over. In many ways, discussing what did and didn't work was my favorite part of the January Breeder's Cup. I've seen some real creative teams and I'd like to know what people had in their heads as they were planning them. It will only make future tourneys more interesting.

[Kay]

I'd like that. I do hope that other Breeder's Battles have different stipulations, though, so no one can copy my team, and so that I can't just use the same team, too, of course. :-P

[SnapperJack]

Another battle, another loss, but at least I'm consistant. I've had some good battles with some great people and am haveing a lot of fun. But my heart stopped when Kay 1HKOed my Zarn.

[Kay]

Aw, I'm sure he'll be okay after a little bit of TLC :-P

[Jhamin]

I'd like that. I do hope that other Breeder's Battles have different stipulations, though, so no one can copy my team, and so that I can't just use the same team, too, of course. :-P

Well the last Breeder's Battle had very different rules than this one. My entire team from last time was illegal for this tourney. (My Aerodactyl was indeed a terror :D)
I know Steve made a comment in one of the threads that was along the lines of "just wait until you see what I have planned for next time!"

So I'm thinking that means that we are all going to need completely different teams for next time. :)

[Kay]

I hope so! I have a few ideas of what it might be and am already making notes for possible teams. :-P

[HMTKSteve]

Next month?

Rules are not set in stone but the badge features two very well known Pokemon on either side of an egg. I'll let you guess the rest. No squeeling Buzz!

[BugCatcher6]

Next month?

Rules are not set in stone but the badge features two very well known Pokemon on either side of an egg. I'll let you guess the rest. No squeeling Buzz!

I would never tell a soul. You don't know how hard it is to keep it quiet though. You also have no idea how many teams I have put together for the next one. I am so driving myself insane.

[Kay]

Buzz gets a head start? :(:(:( I call shenanigans! :-P

[HMTKSteve]

Buzz gets a head start? :(:(:( I call shenanigans! :-P

Shhh.... I sent him the rules for May, not April... don't say anything ;)

[BugCatcher6]

Buzz gets a head start? :(:(:( I call shenanigans! :-P

You forgot that Buzz is the forum know it all, a lot of ideas get bounced off on me. If Buzz likes it, then it has to be golden he-he. Trust me though, the next one will challenge you in battle and in planning. The planning part is the fun part for me. Also, the Pokemon have to be bred in the month of April, so I cannot start early.


EDIT:

Wait May, o.k. now I call shenanigans.

[HMTKSteve]

Here be the badge for next month. Give your praise to vis, who's work is always awesome!

http://forum.pokefarm.com/images/ranks/cups/GoldDblBadge.png

Does that tell you anything?

[BugCatcher6]

Here be the badge for next month. Give your praise to vis, who's work is always awesome!

http://forum.pokefarm.com/images/ranks/cups/GoldDblBadge.png

Does that tell you anything?


It tells me I need to win that tournament.

[HMTKSteve]

If vis is up to it (and the challenges are varied enough) we will try to have special badges for each month. Also, only the winner gets the gold. All those silver badges go away once the tournament is over.

[Kay]

:-D I think I might know!!! I've already got some ideas for a team... :mrgreen: *excited*

[NikolaTesla]

Im still sore from my total loss to Pidgen1 :( That was salt in the wounds.

Ill be ready for the next one though I look forward to it. I think maybe a little more organization would be nice. Like say setting a time instead of total chaos over a weekend.... But, that's just my personal opinion and you know what they say about opinions... everyone's got one.

[BugCatcher6]

I feel bad about my last 3 battles. I mean I beat WestCoastNinja, I thought after beating him the rest of the tournament would be easy.

I know this is a level 1 battle and all, but beating Mike is huge in any standards.

[HMTKSteve]

Jhamin is the one to beat in these tournaments. Level one battling is very different from high level battling.

[Kay]

Jhamin is the one to beat in these tournaments.

Yes, please do beat Jhamin... :twisted:

[Jhamin]

Yes, please do beat Jhamin... :twisted:


Ouch

Just...Ouch....:)

[NikolaTesla]

Jhamin is the one to beat in these tournaments. Level one battling is very different from high level battling.

I beat him but lost to WCN, Pidgen1 and Kay I thought I had it in the bag after I beat him I was so wrong...

[T roo]

awsome battle NikolaTesla Tha6t's 1 lose for me and 2 wins for you;)

[Pigen1]

Man i could have Troo at a 3-0 win but i was scared to bring out my third poke to put an end if he was to slow. but all well.
@ T roo: I like what u did, had a lot of good counters for me. I was not expecting that first move to come out i was like "BLASTED!" But thankfully it didn't KO my Poke. (Brushes brow)"Wheew"

[T roo]

yeah I was counting on champion. He's what's jolding my teem together I would of had you down to 1 but you switched out:D

[Jhamin]

I was just talking with Pigen1 about this.

I've seen a lot of cool teams during this match, and seen a bunch of the same types showing up on several teams.

We had already discussed having an after-tourney discussion of how we all bred our teams & what our plans were. What if we started a new thread and opened it with a list of everyone's team? HMTKSteve should ahve all that info from registrations, otherwise we can either post it ourselves or edit our battle records to include our teams and their stats.

I think it would be a real help going into the next breeder's cup.

Or is that more info than people want to give away?

[T roo]

I think it's a good idea. But it should be done after the tournaments finished. Also my teams original:D

[Jhamin]

I think it's a good idea. But it should be done after the tournaments finished. Also my teams original:D

Oh, absolutely. We wait until the tourney is done! I don't think anyone has finished all their battles yet.

BTW: has anyone gotten a response from PokemasterSD? He shows as being online but hasn't responed to any of my PMs?

[Pigen1]

i havent gotten a response either from SD and i've sent about 2 or 3 pm's.
Also i'm down with the team disclosure idea it hels make for better breeder battles later. And maybe just maybe give Jhamin a run for his money.
@ Jhamin: I got my eye on you for the next one;)

[Jhamin]

@ Jhamin: I got my eye on you for the next one;)


I suspect *everyone* does. I'm guessing I'm going to get pounded in the next one. :D

If only I did this well in my Gym challanges.....

[Pigen1]

That might be my next adventure. Try and battle the Gym Leaders. Thats gonna be a lot of breeding and training for that stuff. We shall see how that goes.

[Kay]

PokemasterSD did respond to me onces saying he had a lot of work to do but would battle me later. So he might still be in.

[NikolaTesla]

I am sure glad these battles arent part of a math equation.

THe logics behoove me, one would think if they defeat person Y they could defeat X Y and Z, but nope not the case. Especially when you sneeze and hit the wrong button or drop your stylus. You know who you are ;)

[Kay]

Heeeeeeeeeeey don't make fun of me :-P

[NikolaTesla]

Heeeeeeeeeeey don't make fun of me :-P

Im not, I'm jsut saying its funny how simple things may make a difference besides you still trounced me and I thought I stood a chance...

In other news I just realized something. My team didnt have a strategy I got so wrapped up in the minutia of developing cool movesets I didn't even think of overall strategy. I also think I am the only who thought testing their team against wild starlies and bidoofs was a good warm up and indicative of how good my team was :rolleyes:

[BugCatcher6]

It is also funny how little things can change the outcome of the battle with level 1 Pokemon. Not bad mouthing Kay, but the time it took between move selections kinda threw me off and gave me to much time to think ahead.

I made 2 mistakes against Jhamin, 1 I should have switched after his first move and 2 I used that move that did no damage because he was immune to it, I keep getting this one move confused with another, type wise I mean.

Yeah I thought after beating WCN I had the tournament in the bag.

[HMTKSteve]

Yeah I thought after beating WCN I had the tournament in the bag.

You had it in a bag all right, a garbage bag!

[Nak]

You had it in a bag all right, a garbage bag!

OMG LMFAO XDDD


I've been watching from the sidelines, and the results are really interesting. =D

[BugCatcher6]

You had it in a bag all right, a garbage bag!

I started out with 2 wins and then my wife had a baby. 3 losses since then, I am using the excuse my mind was not in the battle.

[Jhamin]

I started out with 2 wins and then my wife had a baby. 3 losses since then, I am using the excuse my mind was not in the battle.

Just don't hold it against the kid. A rant during their wedding toast about "you cost me the March '08 breeder's cup!" is going to come off a bit awkward. :D

[BugCatcher6]

I am trying to figure out who I still need to battle. I know Nikola is one, but not sure who else.

[Pigen1]

i didn't have much of a strategy either, all i knew is that i needed to have at least one move on each of my pokes that would take care of types they were weak against if i could, and of course a good STAB move. I just tried to make them as good as possible as easy as possible since I'm not that good at the whole chaining thing yet.

Has anyone heard from Lordlogan2?

[BugCatcher6]

Strategy is pretty simple, hit first and hit hard he-he. The faster Pokemon usually will do better.

I for some reason thought I would see more Rhyhorn in battle. Rhyhorn is the highest total stat of all first stage Pokemon.

[Pigen1]

yeah but my logic is rhyhorn against water types ( which ive seen a few of) would not be good. Man i wanna talk more about my thinking with out giving away my pokes since i still have 2 battles left. GRRRRR. lol

[T roo]

I am trying to figure out who I still need to battle. I know Nikola is one, but not sure who else.

You need to battle me:D

[BugCatcher6]

yeah but my logic is rhyhorn against water types ( which ive seen a few of) would not be good. Man i wanna talk more about my thinking with out giving away my pokes since i still have 2 battles left. GRRRRR. lol

How many Waters could be in this event? Actually I believe there are like 8 Water Types, with only really the 4 starter Water Types being a real option.

[T roo]

what about grass. That deals some good damage on it also.

[BugCatcher6]

what about grass. That deals some good damage on it also.

Be about the same total for Grass, maybe less. 4 Starters, Oddish, Bellsprout, & Hoppip.

[Pigen1]

How many Waters could be in this event? Actually I believe there are like 8 Water Types, with only really the 4 starter Water Types being a real option.
I've seen a few water types. The way i see it water is not only good against rock and ground types but also fire types, covering a few bases. I actually thought about rhyhorn but his moves didn't out weigh the x4 damage i would have to deal with if i would have seen a water type or grass type. Which i have seen both of in this tourny. Thats just my thinking. (Remember amateur here:D)

@ buzz: seedot, budew and a few other that are 3 evo are grass type too. I dont know much about the stats that u were talking about b4 when u mentioned being surprised about the lack of rhyhorns but if u give them good moves stuff can happen especially in a lvl 1 battle.

[BugCatcher6]

Yeah I just skimmed my list and missed him.

T roo, you just gave me that battle. I was like :(:(:(:( I am going to lose 0 - 3 and I come back and win 1 - 0. I never thought I was going to win that battle, again double Protect works and saves me.

[T roo]

you can't use Budew thogh because it's a baby evolution. But yeah seedot works

[Pigen1]

you can't use Budew thogh because it's a baby evolution. But yeah seedot works

ohhhhhh ur right! therese that amateur part.:)

@ buzz: how are u getting off that double protect i don't get that kind of luck.:D

[T roo]

all tell you bugcatcher those double protects are pure luck (luck I don't have) I knew I should have gotten a feint pokemon!

[BugCatcher6]

50% chance to have Protect work a second time. I think it is 33% for it to work a 3rd time. I am not sure, but I think I did 3 in a row against WestCoastNinja.

So far this tournament, double Protect has worked for me 50% of the time he-he.

Bad thing is, I am not a risk taker when it comes to battling, but I took the risk on double Protect and it worked. I knew it was either try it and lose if it missed or don't try it and lose anyway. So not much risk involved in lose or lose he-he.

[T roo]

I now have a O-4 lose streek:(

[BugCatcher6]

I can't believe Jhamin is going to win another Breeder's Cup. No offense he-he.

I believe I only have Nikola to face now. Maybe I will start the thread to discuss my team.

[T roo]

I think I migt actully be the weakest person in the tournament. Anyway yeah Jhamin will win this one but the next one:twisted:

[NikolaTesla]

I started out with 2 wins and then my wife had a baby. 3 losses since then, I am using the excuse my mind was not in the battle.

I'm going to blame my losses on the flu I have this weekend, and my excessive dizzyness.

[BugCatcher6]

I'm going to blame my losses on the flu I have this weekend, and my excessive dizzyness.

If anyone needs to battle me, I will not be home until around 3 or 4 PM Eastern and then back out until like 7 or 8 PM Eastern.

[Pigen1]

Well as the day winds down here in NYC and there seems to be no more battles to battle I would like to offer my congratulations to Mr. Jhamin for his crushing victory! cause the way i see it there is no way there will be an upset in the form of u losing. :x GRRRRR!. LOL all well there is always april.

@HMTKSteve: when might the April rules make their debut?

[NikolaTesla]

I guess I can take pride in being the only one that defeated him then, despite my own painful losses.

[Kay]

Congrats, Jhamin :)
I'm looking forward to that Rematch :D

[BugCatcher6]

Nikola, are you wanting to battle? I believe you are the only battle I need for the tournament.


EDIT: Everytime I catch Nikola online and request a battle he logs before I get a reply. Bummer.

[NikolaTesla]

That was a fantastic battle Buzz!

[HMTKSteve]

So, does everyone concede victory to Jhamin already?

[BugCatcher6]

I am really disappointed how little Toxic Spikes did for me. This was my first attempt at a Poison Stall team. Not very much stalling when 2 hits or 1 STABBED Super Effective can end the round he-he.

[NikolaTesla]

So, does everyone concede victory to Jhamin already?

I think he and Pidgen are the only ones that actually have points on the board. Sad but true :(

[Kay]

Well I don't think the other two battlers are going to show up so I think the win does go to Jhamin.
I am proud of how well I did, though! Especially since this was my first tournament of any kind. :)

If we wanted to talk about our strategies and what not, would this thread be a good place for it or should we start a new thread?

Edit: Nikola, don't forget me :( I have positive 5 :)

[HMTKSteve]

I think he and Pidgen are the only ones that actually have points on the board. Sad but true :(

I'll go through that thread and check for math errors.

[Pigen1]

I definitely concede with my tiny 1 point. I made my goal of getting out of the Negative zone so i'm happy. :D So what is the prize?

Edit: yeah i came in 4th. if i saw right it was Jhamin then Kay (congrats :)) then was WCN and then myself.

[NikolaTesla]

I was almost better off not entering leaving the tournament in the negatives. *shakes head*

The good news is I found a new love for my poke team, so much so I may start a new game with them as my starters :D !



Edit: I wish Kay had dropped her stylus more during our battle. Actually I don't think I could've KO'ed any pokemon if she didn't

[BugCatcher6]

Would a new thread be better to discuss the tactics and teams? Maybe if someone titles it PokéFarm's March Breeder's Cup Recap or something.

[Kay]

You are never going to let me live that down, are you, Nikola? :-P

[NikolaTesla]

Would a new thread be better to discuss the tactics and teams? Maybe if someone titles it PokéFarm's March Breeder's Cup Recap or something.

Wish granted http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?p=80362#post80362

[NikolaTesla]

You are never going to let me live that down, are you, Nikola? :-P

It put a smile on my face. :) Besides you could've closed your eyes and pressed buttons and still beat me. Your team was incredible.

[Pigen1]

So which Shiny does Jhamin get?

[Kay]

It put a smile on my face. :) Besides you could've closed your eyes and pressed buttons and still beat me. Your team was incredible.

*blush* Thanks! :mrgreen: You just made my night. :-P

[Jhamin]

Hey, good tourney everyone!

I did pretty well, but I can already tell that this kind of success is going to be *really* hard to repeat next month. I can already tell that Kay is probably going to clean all our clocks next time. :)

I look foreward to the after battle thread discussion. I suspect we are all going to learn a lot.

[Kay]

Psh, you people need to quit flattering me. :-P ...Actually, I enjoy it, go on :D (kidding, kidding!)

[HMTKSteve]

The details for the April event have been posted.

[SnapperJack]

Congrats Jhamin! And thanks to everyone for the fun battles.