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NeonZRO
03-24-2008, 09:51 PM
My best friends brother is only a couple months younger than me nut he acts like an 8 year old:mad:! Ok let me ask you this: is a true brawler someone who only uses the b button specials? Cuz thats what this kid did! He chose kirby and did nothing but rape the b button. While my best friend and his other little brother were fighting on the ground, he would fly up in the air and use the rock smash, then he get on to the gound and wait for one of us to be launched so he can hit us with the hammer, or he would repeatedly just wildly wave the thing around. When he was close to dying he would run away and use the air cutter from a distance like a coward, and when the match was almost his he would swallow us up and jump off the stage! I wouldn't be so mad about this if he would just use the a button! Ive consulted both his older and younger brother, another friend who is a street fighter pro (which means he runs into guys like this a lot) and a couple of other people and we all agree on one thing... this guys not a real player. Hes not better than me or any other player because he never so much as glanced at his a button. Do you guys agree?

MissingNo.
03-24-2008, 09:57 PM
My best friends brother is only a couple months younger than me nut he acts like an 8 year old:mad:! Ok let me ask you this: is a true brawler someone who only uses the b button specials? Cuz thats what this kid did! He chose kirby and did nothing but rape the b button. While my best friend and his other little brother were fighting on the ground, he would fly up in the air and use the rock smash, then he get on to the gound and wait for one of us to be launched so he can hit us with the hammer, or he would repeatedly just wildly wave the thing around. When he was close to dying he would run away and use the air cutter from a distance like a coward, and when the match was almost his he would swallow us up and jump off the stage! I wouldn't be so mad about this if he would just use the a button! Ive consulted both his older and younger brother, another friend who is a street fighter pro (which means he runs into guys like this a lot) and a couple of other people and we all agree on one thing... this guys not a real player. Hes not better than me or any other player because he never so much as glanced at his a button. Do you guys agree?


I do NOT agree with you, honestly. I haven't played this game, but I understand what kind of situation it is. You are frustrated with his tactics because you can't seem to match them. As cowardly as they seem, they are not. There is no honor in death, and this person is doing whatever he can to stay alive.... whatever he can to win. And if his tactics bring him victory, then props to him. The means or unimportant. Like bringing a knife to a gun fight, you're still gonna get shot. And its your fault for not being prepared.

Update: And how is this cheating?

KitsuneGin
03-24-2008, 10:06 PM
It's a legit tactic, use pikachu's thunder on him, see how he likes it.

Plus you can own him with mario big time.

timmyeatsfood
03-24-2008, 10:16 PM
i hate spammers.

but he's not really cheating. he just isn't that talented at the game.

and when you get sucked up, if you rapidly spin the control stick, then you can break free easier than in melee.

at least he doesn't spam smash attacks.

NeonZRO
03-24-2008, 10:19 PM
I do NOT agree with you, honestly. I haven't played this game, but I understand what kind of situation it is. You are frustrated with his tactics because you can't seem to match them. As cowardly as they seem, they are not. There is no honor in death, and this person is doing whatever he can to stay alive.... whatever he can to win. And if his tactics bring him victory, then props to him. The means or unimportant. Like bringing a knife to a gun fight, you're still gonna get shot. And its your fault for not being prepared.

Update: And how is this cheating?

So, you've never played the game... and your lecturing me on it. Let me explain to you how this works. If this kid took these "tactics" of his to a tournament... he would be disqualified the very second they would figure him out. Its like bringing a grenade to a knife fight! But I suppose you think thats more honorable than dying too. Ask any REAL SSB player, or any fighting game junky, and they wont be as friendly as Im being. A cowards victory isnt a good victory. Theres only two things I agree with you on:

1. Youre right, I should be ready to fight punks like him at any time, but I guess a fair fight means nothing to those without honor.

2.A win is win, but as far as skill goes... this guys miles under me or any one who uses ALL the games fighting aspects and not just the same cowardly moves over and over.

UPDATE: KitsuneGin: thanks dude, Ill con sider that on the rematch.

timmyeatsfood: youre right, he isnt talented at the game, but I practiced to get better, I didn't use the same childish moves over and over.

MissingNo.
03-24-2008, 10:27 PM
So, you've never played the game... and your lecturing me on it. Let me explain to you how this works. If this kid took these "tactics" of his to a tournament... he would be disqualified the very second they would figure him out. Its like bringing a grenade to a knife fight! But I suppose you think thats more honorable than dying too. Ask any REAL SSB player, or any fighting game junky, and they wont be as friendly as Im being. A cowards victory isnt a good victory. Theres only two things I agree with you on:

1. Youre right, I should be ready to fight punks like him at any time, but I guess a fair fight means nothing to those without honor.

2.A win is win, but as far as skill goes... this guys miles under me or any one who uses ALL the games fighting aspects and not just the same cowardly moves over and over.

Obviously the people who have played this game agree with me. And its the same with any combat game, theres always loopholes. And if its part of the game, then so be it. And any victory is a good victory. And if this guy IS beating you, then I have to say his skill is more advanced than yours. And Kitsune has already mentioned that theres a way around it. To be advanced, you might wanna cover that, and any other loopholes. And with the grenade thing, lets take this to a realworld scale. WWII, trench warfare, submarines, and fighter jets....but the Americans didn't care what the rules were, we dropped atomic bombs all over Japan (no offense to the Japanese). Does that make us cowards, or does that make us stronger!

KitsuneGin
03-24-2008, 10:27 PM
Actually, in a tournament, he would not be disqualified, but he wouldn't pass to the second round, all moves can be countered if you know how.

Like when he transforms into a rock, just do the coin jump with mario when he's at the highest for x2 damage.

NeonZRO
03-24-2008, 11:04 PM
Obviously the people who have played this game agree with me. And its the same with any combat game, theres always loopholes. And if its part of the game, then so be it. And any victory is a good victory. And if this guy IS beating you, then I have to say his skill is more advanced than yours. And Kitsune has already mentioned that theres a way around it. To be advanced, you might wanna cover that, and any other loopholes. And with the grenade thing, lets take this to a realworld scale. WWII, trench warfare, submarines, and fighter jets....but the Americans didn't care what the rules were, we dropped atomic bombs all over Japan (no offense to the Japanese). Does that make us cowards, or does that make us stronger!

I hate explaining to those who dont know the game... when my best friends beat me, I dont get mad, know why? CUZ THEY BEAT ME WITH SKILL!!! They block, they dodge, they time theyre attacks almost perfectly! Oh and they use the A button like a pro player would! One of my frienmds who was a psycho on melle just played the game for the first time, and he was amazing! Lets admit no matter how good we were on melle none of us were as good as we were before when we picked up Brawl, but this guy played like hes been playing for years! Out of the total of 30 matches we played I only managed to beat him around 9-10 of them. But I wasnt mad, I just laughed. Why? Every move was well thought out, and unlike this other guy, his combos were unexpected, never the same strategy twice. He was so far above me, but I never had so much fun losing in my life! And when I did beat him, I was proud because I know I beat him with my skill which I tried to work so hard to get. Thats what fighting with honor is all about! When I beat a pro Ill feel fufilled, but tommorow when I rematch this kid, I wont even feel the need to grin, why? Cuz all I did was beat a coward with no skill. I can rematch him in 2 ways. 1. I can give him a taste of his own medicine or 2. I can beat with a true skill. Ones a coward, and the others an honarable fighter, since youre all over the cowardly part I think Ill take the REAL fighters way. As I said before, win or lose, if thats the only way he can beat me, hes still not better than me! Tommorow, not just me but both of my friends are taking this kid one on one, and all I can hope to do is bring you guys good news on how skill triumphs!:cool:

Oh and I dont know what to say to the atom bomb thing, but we got so many nukes, we could bomb the world to show them whos boss. Know why we dont do it? Thats just not the way things are done, its not the right way to play. Weve got other ways to show suppiriority.

Kay
03-24-2008, 11:22 PM
His technique is perfectly legit. And like someone else has mentioned, perfecly counterable. It's not his problem that you don't know how to counter someone who uses the B button all the time. That just shows where you are lacking in skills and need improvement, which can be done with practice. There is nothing dishonourable about B-Button attacks, or else they would not be in the game.

Just like there is nothing dishonourable in a real life, we'll say sparring match because we probably shouldn't talk about actual fighting, there is nothing dishonourable about winning a sparring match with all distance kicks (roundhouses etc). It's just a different strategy, where it's more about keeping distance and keeping from getting hit, and then seeing an opening and taking it fast from a distance. Some people would see it as cowardly because you're not getting in their face with punches and taking less risk of yourself getting hit, but it is just a defensive strategy.

Besides, it is just a video game. Don't get so worked up! It's more fun when you don't take it so seriously. :)

MissingNo.
03-24-2008, 11:22 PM
I hate explaining to those who dont know the game... when my best friends beat me, I dont get mad, know why? CUZ THEY BEAT ME WITH SKILL!!! They block, they dodge, they time theyre attacks almost perfectly! Oh and they use the A button like a pro player would! One of my frienmds who was a psycho on melle just played the game for the first time, and he was amazing! Lets admit no matter how good we were on melle none of us were as good as we were before when we picked up Brawl, but this guy played like hes been playing for years! Out of the total of 30 matches we played I only managed to beat him around 9-10 of them. But I wasnt mad, I just laughed. Why? Every move was well thought out, and unlike this other guy, his combos were unexpected, never the same strategy twice. He was so far above me, but I never had so much fun losing in my life! And when I did beat him, I was proud because I know I beat him with my skill which I tried to work so hard to get. Thats what fighting with honor is all about! When I beat a pro Ill feel fufilled, but tommorow when I rematch this kid, I wont even feel the need to grin, why? Cuz all I did was beat a coward with no skill. I can rematch him in 2 ways. 1. I can give him a taste of his own medicine or 2. I can beat with a true skill. Ones a coward, and the others an honarable fighter, since youre all over the cowardly part I think Ill take the REAL fighters way. As I said before, win or lose, if thats the only way he can beat me, hes still not better than me! Tommorow, not just me but both of my friends are taking this kid one on one, and all I can hope to do is bring you guys good news on how skill triumphs!:cool:

Oh and I dont know what to say to the atom bomb thing, but we got so many nukes, we could bomb the world to show them whos boss. Know why we dont do it? Thats just not the way things are done, its not the right way to play. Weve got other ways to show suppiriority.

To me, your two opponents are the same. At first you couldn't beat them, but you learned and were able to conquer them. You are still in training in this particular game and will be for a while. You will run into people who can beat you, whether with complex moves, or simple moves. You are more upset with the latter because you believe you should be better than that, and you know you are. But you weren't prepared, but next time you will be.
Here's what I will agree on. To use this one tactic and nothing else is foolish, but if it is used on people who are not prepared for it is brilliance. And to have many others is even more. He knew how to beat you and did. Next time you will beat him and he will learn like you have.

WestCoastNinja
03-25-2008, 12:46 AM
I have not played brawl so I dont know what to say. But I have been playing marvel vs streetfighter online for awhile and ive learned thing about the competitive fighting games. Some people are just cheap and get wins using the cheapest guy in the game. Some people use characters they like that just happen to be cheap. Thats my case sadly. I just LOVE beating the :(:(:(:( out of Ryu with Juggernuat! :D But 50% of the time I get "Jugg is cheap noob!" My reply is Jugg may be cheap but so is hadoken spam. XP

timmyeatsfood
03-25-2008, 01:06 AM
Obviously the people who have played this game agree with me. And its the same with any combat game, theres always loopholes. And if its part of the game, then so be it. And any victory is a good victory. And if this guy IS beating you, then I have to say his skill is more advanced than yours. And Kitsune has already mentioned that theres a way around it. To be advanced, you might wanna cover that, and any other loopholes. And with the grenade thing, lets take this to a realworld scale. WWII, trench warfare, submarines, and fighter jets....but the Americans didn't care what the rules were, we dropped atomic bombs all over Japan (no offense to the Japanese). Does that make us cowards, or does that make us stronger!

just because someone beats someone in smash bros does not necessarrily mean they are more skilled in it. spamming is a really annoying and cheap "strategy" to use, and while it can be effective, it is really frowned upon in smash bros. and if you beat someone by spamming, it does not necessarily mean you have more skills than them.

and for anyone that doesn't know, "spamming" is using the same move over and over again.

MissingNo.
03-25-2008, 01:11 AM
just because someone beats someone in smash bros does not necessarrily mean they are more skilled in it. spamming is a really annoying and cheap "strategy" to use, and while it can be effective, it is really frowned upon in smash bros. and if you beat someone by spamming, it does not necessarily mean you have more skills than them.

and for anyone that doesn't know, "spamming" is using the same move over and over again.

I disagree. Obviously, lol. But my belief is, in any game, that a win, if legitimate, which this seems to be, is a win. If a tactic is used, especially if its the same thing over and over and over again, and hte opponent can't overcome it, then the opponent is not better. If I could do one move over and over again on you and you couldn't get around it, do you think I would do anything differently?

BugCatcher6
03-25-2008, 01:13 AM
I know this will sound bad and I will get ripped for it, but trust me I was once one of these myself. There are people that lose and there are losers. Poor losers I should say, but some people will say anything to make their losing seem like a fluke and all it does is takes away from the person that won.

I say I know because I had a problem with this. During a Gym battle I had setup my sweeper only to have my opponent explode and take him out. Very cheap I thought at the time and he went on to take out the rest of my team. After thinking about it though, I thought maybe my one Pokemon was that good that he was afraid of it, made me feel a bit better.

Bottom line is, if you beat him with a move repeatedly, would that not make your tactic cheap and cheating?

I know from your other post you won't think about this but you will yell about people not playing the game trying to give you advice. Basically it is not the advice you want, so you will not listen. There was 1 person that plays the game that replied and agreed with the person that did not play the game, but you overlooked his post.

I know it sucks to lose, but his tactic cannot be the only way to win and there has to be a counter. If not then SSB was poorly made. His tactic for winning should push you to find a way to beat him.

WestCoastNinja
03-25-2008, 01:18 AM
I forgot to say somthing in my last post. If he is only using b button attacks then shouldent he be easier to beat? The way you described it makes me think he really sucked. You and the othe guy should have just double teamed him.

BugCatcher6
03-25-2008, 01:22 AM
That reminds me of something. I said I use to be a bad loser. What changed it? Well one I should not take away from a persons win even if I don't agree with the they won.

And 2,

If I got this upset over losing at a video game, why play? I mean if life is based off of my pixels are better then your pixels, then it is time to re-enter the real world.

Viscosity
03-25-2008, 01:25 AM
Personally, if someone abuses a move repeatedly, it makes them cheap -- not a cheater.

If you let tactics like that get to you, you end up like one of those tournypunks who turn off all items and insist on battling only using FINAL DESTINATION.

If Tournypunks played Monopoly (http://i31.tinypic.com/wlowzk.jpg)

revelp8
03-25-2008, 01:36 AM
thats an awesome find viscosity

SpaceMonkeySteve
03-25-2008, 01:51 AM
Wow. Really, just wow.

Let me start by saying this. That kid is in no way a cheater. Calling him one is just a poor excuse for a loss. A more actuate statement would be, "He used cheap tactics." Now, losing to cheap tactics is actually fairly embarrassing, because you feel like you were 'cheated' out of your win, or that you are 'better' than this other person. But let me say this: Are you any better? So you lost. If were truly more skilled than that person, you would be able to go back in the next fight and beat him easily, and every match thereafter. Instead, you came on here and started going on about cheating and how he's pathetic and how you're a 'true player'.

You know what I call people who act all high and mighty and place themselves over others like that? Pompous.

If you can't even beat someone who B move spams without whining about how unfair it is he uses attacks programmed into the game, or how the sun was in your eyes, or how you sneezed and messed up, or whatever other EXCUSE you can come up with. He may have a poor strategy, but at least he isn't a poor player who needs to justify his loss by bashing every individual button press of his opponent.

Actually, I have a friend who's like that, and after I trounced him, (six matches in a row, mind) he started jabbering on about how I did such and such wrong and so and so and blah and blah, and that's why he technically won. So I say to him, "Why don't you tell your mommy about it?" before elbowing him in the gut. He has since become a very pleasant opponent, after realizing his poor playmanship.

Let me ask you this, on the average, when you lose, do you either shake your opponent's hand and say, "Good game, I'll get you next time." Or do you throw the controller down, run around the room raging at the top of your lungs with a superiority complex?

This kid may need to learn how to play, but so do you.

Viscosity
03-25-2008, 01:54 AM
You know, what's really funny is I used to be #1 in Smash Bros during party matches just b/c I'd sit on the corner of the screen and avoid dying.

;) He who dies the least, wins... the yeast? (Idk, I suck at rhymes)

MissingNo.
03-25-2008, 01:59 AM
Wow. Really, just wow.

Let me start by saying this. That kid is in no way a cheater. Calling him one is just a poor excuse for a loss. A more actuate statement would be, "He used cheap tactics." Now, losing to cheap tactics is actually fairly embarrassing, because you feel like you were 'cheated' out of your win, or that you are 'better' than this other person. But let me say this: Are you any better? So you lost. If were truly more skilled than that person, you would be able to go back in the next fight and beat him easily, and every match thereafter. Instead, you came on here and started going on about cheating and how he's pathetic and how you're a 'true player'.

You know what I call people who act all high and mighty and place themselves over others like that? Pompous.

If you can't even beat someone who B move spams without whining about how unfair it is he uses attacks programmed into the game, or how the sun was in your eyes, or how you sneezed and messed up, or whatever other EXCUSE you can come up with. He may have a poor strategy, but at least he isn't a poor player who needs to justify his loss by bashing every individual button press of his opponent.

Actually, I have a friend who's like that, and after I trounced him, (six matches in a row, mind) he started jabbering on about how I did such and such wrong and so and so and blah and blah, and that's why he technically won. So I say to him, "Why don't you tell your mommy about it?" before elbowing him in the gut. He has since become a very pleasant opponent, after realizing his poor playmanship.

Let me ask you this, on the average, when you lose, do you either shake your opponent's hand and say, "Good game, I'll get you next time." Or do you throw the controller down, run around the room raging at the top of your lungs with a superiority complex?

This kid may need to learn how to play, but so do you.

whoa.....whoa....

Kay
03-25-2008, 02:04 AM
There was 1 person that plays the game that replied and agreed with the person that did not play the game, but you overlooked his post.

Either you called me a guy or there was more than one poster that plays the game and agreed that it is a legitimate way of winning and the OP needs to just figure out how to beat the B-Button player. :-P (And even more since you posted that) Just saying. ^_^

BugCatcher6
03-25-2008, 02:11 AM
Either you called me a guy or there was more than one poster that plays the game and agreed that it is a legitimate way of winning and the OP needs to just figure out how to beat the B-Button player. :-P (And even more since you posted that) Just saying. ^_^

There are 674 members here and 253 active members, I don't remember each and everyone and their gender. I was writing that post from memory and the names were not in my memory. Sorry though, next time I will do a gender check before posting he-he, wait that could land me in big trouble.


Actually I did have a problem with losing. It got really bad when a member I beat 6 times in a row beat me and his PM made it sound like, wow I don't know why it took me so long to beat you, I beat this Gym Leader first try and this one and this one. It sounded to me that my first 6 wins must have been luck. I went off and hurt the kids feelings. I told him what I thought and he never said anything that was different then what I thought he said, so I never apologized for going off.

I changed the way I react to a lose since that battle. It made me feel like :(:(:(:( that he threw my victories back in my face , so I will not do that to someone else.

Like I said though, if the move he does repeatedly has no way to counter it, then SSB sucks. If it does have a way to counter it, then use it and maybe he will start to work on a new tactic. Maybe he uses it repeatedly because, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

KitsuneGin
03-25-2008, 02:14 AM
I’m actually banned at my house from using Mario, I sucked at Melee, but got really got at Brawl. I guess good enough for everybody to start hating me when I pick Mario. I don’t mind using another character, because if I win all the time, nobody will want to play against me, making the game boring.

But anyways, here are some tactics to waste the pink furry:

-If you counter a special, you make 2x damage. When switching to the spiky cube special, Kirby charges for about half a second, before being lunched to the ground, if you hit him right then, you counter the move, I use the coin jump (special up) with Mario, or Thunder with Pikachu (special down).

-When he’s trying to mace you, or hit you with that hammer of his, he has to be right next to you, just shield + his direction, you avoid his attack and get behind him in just one move, leaving him open for a counter, I grab my opponent, I hit him twice, by pressing the grab button again, and then attack up for spikes with Sonic, attack down to punch with Mario, or attack left or right to throw him out.

-When he’s trying to suck you in, I just let him, and I throw fireballs with Mario (hit special).

-Mario and Pikachu are great edge guards, and even though Kirby can fly really high and far, he’s really slow, double jump with Mario and special up for the coin jump to hit Kirby back out, if you do it right, you can rinse and repeat several times. With Pikachu, just get in the edge and Thunder, the drawback is after you use Thunder, you have about half a second where you can’t move and your open for a counter.

-Try to keep your water tank charged with Mario (hold special down), it doesn’t do a lot of damage, but it pushes opponents really far out.

Hope this helps.

Jhamin
03-25-2008, 03:05 AM
Check this link: http://www.sirlin.net/

This guy was a National Champion Street Fighter II player and has a lot to say about the ins and outs of winning competitive video games. This article: http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/ is especially relevant to the discussion.

Jats605
03-25-2008, 09:13 AM
Nero i have one thing to say...:GET OVER IT!!!!!

BugCatcher6
03-25-2008, 10:58 AM
Nero i have one thing to say...:GET OVER IT!!!!!

Good advice.

Take it from a person that lets things fester and annoy me for a long long time. I cannot let things go easily and it will eat at you and drive you insane.

timmyeatsfood
03-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Personally, if someone abuses a move repeatedly, it makes them cheap -- not a cheater.

If you let tactics like that get to you, you end up like one of those tournypunks who turn off all items and insist on battling only using FINAL DESTINATION.

If Tournypunks played Monopoly (http://i31.tinypic.com/wlowzk.jpg)

haha. that picture's hilarious.

and the reason people play on final destination with items off is because you can only rely on your skill as a player, and not get lucky and get a super item or something. however, i have a feeling battlefield or the animal crossing stage will become the new final destination, as fd in brawl has a lame edge where, if you do an up-b when below the edge trying to get back on, you will not be sweetspotted to the edge, but instead get stuck and fall to your death. :(


and to everyone else, the reason people don't like spammers is because it's no fun. it can easily be countered with mind games and skillz, but it's just not as fun playing a spammer as opposed to someone who actually thinks about what they'll do.

and don't get worked up over losing to a spammer. in one-on-one matches, spammers usually lose. in free-for-alls, don't ever get worked up over losing. free-for-alls don't measure your skill at all. the person who is least active in the match usually takes the least damage and loses the least lives, so he/she usually wins. when i play free-for-alls, i try and have fun by charging in and fighting with people, as opposed to just loafing around so you'll win. (like viscosity said she does :lol:)

it is, however, very fun to spam kirby's taunts in free for alls. :lol: a lot of times i'll just run away and taunt. ahh...it's so fun.

Gamegeezer
03-25-2008, 08:33 PM
I personally enjoy running into a crowd and taking everybody out at once. Ahhhh..............the joy. Kinda hard to do in this game, since they dumbed down ganon, but i used to go on mass killing sprees with him. Now i just play as snake and set traps everywhere. I take control in 1-1 matches, especially on final destination, where the platform is small to begin with, so there is little escape from the mines. Dang, i wish i could graduate sooner so i could have time to play. :) Enough procrastination, back to work for me....>.<

lvl100
03-25-2008, 10:04 PM
lol just use pikachu.:D

He isn't cheating, if he is using attacks that were already in the game.

NeonZRO
03-26-2008, 04:25 PM
Personally, if someone abuses a move repeatedly, it makes them cheap -- not a cheater.

If you let tactics like that get to you, you end up like one of those tournypunks who turn off all items and insist on battling only using FINAL DESTINATION.

If Tournypunks played Monopoly (http://i31.tinypic.com/wlowzk.jpg)

Oh that hurts. I like to play in final destination all the time and one of my friends turns off the items. Ice cold!:sad:


Wow. Really, just wow.

Let me start by saying this. That kid is in no way a cheater. Calling him one is just a poor excuse for a loss. A more actuate statement would be, "He used cheap tactics." Now, losing to cheap tactics is actually fairly embarrassing, because you feel like you were 'cheated' out of your win, or that you are 'better' than this other person. But let me say this: Are you any better? So you lost. If were truly more skilled than that person, you would be able to go back in the next fight and beat him easily, and every match thereafter. Instead, you came on here and started going on about cheating and how he's pathetic and how you're a 'true player'.

You know what I call people who act all high and mighty and place themselves over others like that? Pompous.

If you can't even beat someone who B move spams without whining about how unfair it is he uses attacks programmed into the game, or how the sun was in your eyes, or how you sneezed and messed up, or whatever other EXCUSE you can come up with. He may have a poor strategy, but at least he isn't a poor player who needs to justify his loss by bashing every individual button press of his opponent.

Actually, I have a friend who's like that, and after I trounced him, (six matches in a row, mind) he started jabbering on about how I did such and such wrong and so and so and blah and blah, and that's why he technically won. So I say to him, "Why don't you tell your mommy about it?" before elbowing him in the gut. He has since become a very pleasant opponent, after realizing his poor playmanship.

Let me ask you this, on the average, when you lose, do you either shake your opponent's hand and say, "Good game, I'll get you next time." Or do you throw the controller down, run around the room raging at the top of your lungs with a superiority complex?

This kid may need to learn how to play, but so do you.

I hate lectures dude, but even more than that... I hate lectures from people who dont deserve to give 'em to me. Did you read all the post? I dont think you did. Im geussing you simply just read the first one, maybe glanced at a couple others and then proceeded to giving me attitude. If you wouldve read one my responses to MissingNO., you would know that I told him that when I lost to this guy, I was mad. But when I lost to my friends who are nearly double my skill, I laughed cuz I never had so much fun, and I was never so challenged before. When I lose to random players, I cant say anything cuz... I dont know them. All I know is that that they beat me. Try reading before writing bro, it helps.


Nero i have one thing to say...:GET OVER IT!!!!!

Who the heck is Nero?:confused:

All right enough responses, the one thing that that we can all agree on that I couldnt (or didnt want to) see is that its not "cheating", its just a cheap tactic. And in my last post I said I would rematch him and tell you the result. Well the results are... I won. But as I mentioned before I got no satisfaction from the victory. Beating this kid meant nothing, cuz like most of you mentioned, hes not a skilled player. I thought of giving this guy a taste of his own medicine, but my friends told me if I really wanted to prove my point, I would beat him my way, not his. So I did, I fought him, on a day where I was focused and not in a bad mood, I timed my atacks and blocked (my biggest deffect in ANY fighting game is Im too run n' gun and I hardly ever block like any good player would) and I beat him taking minimal damage. He said I was lucky and he fought me again, this happened for about 3 matches, till he finally dropped his controller and walked away. Even when his older brother and my friend were laughing at him, I didnt so much as change the expression on my face. Know why? Cuz all I did was show up a 19 year old guy who acts like an 8 year old. What is funny though is that after he dropped his controller I wanted to do same thing, but instead put on my shades and drive off into the sunset like some hero. But then my friends picked up the controllers and said "Your winning streak is over!" and proceeded to kill the cool guy mood. Good times.:lol: Anyway thanks too all those who responded, your opinions, your advice, MissinNO., Kay, Bugcatcher, everybody thanks.:-D If you guys wanna keep writing on the same subject go for it. If not then somebody close this bad boy for me.

BugCatcher6
03-26-2008, 04:32 PM
I can't see thanking me. You can't even take what people posted without getting mad about it. Maybe they are cheating you by posting. Truthfully I had this same problem, but if you get this bent out of shape over a video, it is time to stop playing. Maybe you could try Chutes and Ladders, although you may think that a person using the ladders all the time is cheating.

Also to get offended from someone typing nero instead of NeonZRO, OMG.