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BugCatcher6
05-16-2008, 10:02 PM
In light of the upcoming Toys R' Us Darkrai Event I am going to setup a tournament to win a Japanese Movie Event Darkrai.

Tournament Rules:


Pokémon from the NU/UU Tiers only.

NU/UU Tiers can be here (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=2162).


Level 50 Battles
Species Clause

It is NOT permitted to have two or more of the exact same Pokémon in a team.
Pokémon from the same Family are however permitted (i.e. Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu).


Duplicate Item Clause

No two Pokémon in the team may carry the same item.


Evasion Clause

Moves that directly increase evasion (such as Double Team and Minimize) are NOT permitted in battle.
Taking advantage of abilities such as Sand Veil and Snow Cloak are permitted. They are abilities, and do not directly affect evasion status.


Self-K.O. Clause

When both parties are down the last Pokémon, Self-K.O. moves (such as Explosion, Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Memento, etc.) will cause an automatic loss for its user.
Abilities such as Aftermath do not count since they are abilities and not moves.


Sleep Clause

It is NOT permitted that the status Sleep (SLP) be applied to more than one of the opponent's Pokémon at a time. The opponent's currently sleeping Pokémon must first awaken or get knocked out before Sleep may be cast on the opponent's Pokémon once again.
Applying the status Sleep while using random-selection moves (such as Assist, Metronome, Sleep Talk, etc.) does NOT violate this clause.
The move Yawn (unless used with moves such as Assist, Metronome, Sleep Talk, etc.) violates this clause.
Self-inflicted Sleep (such as Rest) does NOT count in this clause, as it is voluntarily inflicted by the user and not by the opponent.
If ability-inflicted Sleep (such as Effect Spore, etc.) is already in effect, applying Sleep to another Pokémon violates this clause


One-hit KO (O.H.K.O.) Clause

One-hit K.O. moves (such as Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Sheer Cold, etc.) are NOT permitted, as they hugely rely on chance and not skill.



Tournament Rewards:
1st Place:Darkrai
2nd Place: Shiny Eevee


Tournament Dates:
Sign ups: June 25th
Tournament Start: June 27th
Tournament End: June 29th


Use this thread to discuss the tournament, rules, and signing up. Post your FC name, forum name, and FC. Your team must be PM'd to me before the 25th of June or you cannot take part in the tournament.

Battlers:


WestCoastNinja - Mike - 4510 7090 8948
belnumcree - Tamara - 2663 9228 2430
revelp8 - James - 1934 0172 6004
Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923
Boba_fett66 - 5155 2990 4837
reptyler - 4768 8583 9689
10*dcr - 3394 0266 2877

WestCoastNinja
05-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Cool, I love uu/nu batttles. Im in.

MIKE
FC: 4510 7090 8948
WestCoastNinja

BugCatcher6
05-16-2008, 10:06 PM
Cool, I love uu/nu batttles. Im in.

MIKE
FC: 4510 7090 8948
WestCoastNinja

I know some of the rules are not major problems in the NU/UU tiers, but I value your opinion of them. Any rule missing or any rule to much?

soccergurl22
05-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Umm, I'll give it a try. =D

Soccergurl22
Maddi
0559 4798 1983

WestCoastNinja
05-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Everything looks fine. I pretty sure you got everything down.

BugCatcher6
05-16-2008, 10:13 PM
Everything looks fine. I pretty sure you got everything down.

Cool I like being thorough.

Due to my personal rule of never being in a tournament I am holding, I will not be battling unless the number of opponents are an odd number.

belnumcree
05-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Did you want to have the OHKO moves clause in place? Regardless, I'm in. :-D

BelnumCree
Tamara
2663 9228 2430

BugCatcher6
05-16-2008, 10:41 PM
Did you want to have the OHKO moves clause in place? Regardless, I'm in. :-D

BelnumCree
Tamara
2663 9228 2430

My thing with OHKO, if you want to take a 30% chance to hit me, by all means be my guest he-he.

belnumcree
05-16-2008, 10:45 PM
My thing with OHKO, if you want to take a 30% chance to hit me, by all means be my guest he-he.

As good as my opponents luck tends to be, I'm in deep trouble. O.o lol :-D j/k I'm cool with it though, just wanted to make sure it was intentionally left out.

BugCatcher6
05-16-2008, 11:01 PM
As good as my opponents luck tends to be, I'm in deep trouble. O.o lol :-D j/k I'm cool with it though, just wanted to make sure it was intentionally left out.

I added it, I just did a check to see how many NU/UU have OHKO moves. The ones that do can potentially abuse it. Wailord with Fissure, a lot of HP to try and get off a OHKO.

Kiwi
05-16-2008, 11:36 PM
im in:P
Kiwi
Kiwi-4296-0292

revelp8
05-17-2008, 01:19 AM
I'm in again. lets hope i win some battles this time around. :rolleyes:

revelp8
James
1934 0172 6004

Nak
05-17-2008, 11:23 AM
I'm in again.

Same, same! =D

I already have a Darkrai, but my NU's want to battle. :D

Nak
1375 4444 7706

Fautor Animus
05-17-2008, 12:32 PM
I'm in!

so is my brother!

Rroni: Info in profile

Eni: Info in his profile

BugCatcher6
05-22-2008, 09:20 AM
Still plenty of time to sign up and build a team.

Don't be put off by not being the best battler or best breeder. The bigger the tournament the more chances there are for even the best battlers to slip and fall.

It is a chance to own a Movie Darkrai so just trying gives you a chance.

pokemonmaster_146
05-22-2008, 09:24 AM
i really want a darkrai count me inmy fc is343720525964 and my in game name is eddie

Kiwi
05-23-2008, 07:47 PM
i wont be abke to battle for this tournament.
so im out.

BugCatcher6
05-23-2008, 08:16 PM
i wont be abke to battle for this tournament.
so im out.

Thanks for letting me know before hand. ;)

Nak
05-23-2008, 08:43 PM
'Fraid I'll have to withdraw as well. Family outing around the end of June. Unconfirmed, but I'd hate to mess up the brackets. My apologies.

BugCatcher6
05-23-2008, 08:53 PM
'Fraid I'll have to withdraw as well. Family outing around the end of June. Unconfirmed, but I'd hate to mess up the brackets. My apologies.

For Kiwi and Nak, what if the tournament was moved up to 20th, 21st, and 22nd?

That is still 3 weeks to breed any Pokemon needed.

Nak
05-23-2008, 09:02 PM
For Kiwi and Nak, what if the tournament was moved up to 20th, 21st, and 22nd?

That is still 3 weeks to breed any Pokemon needed.I'll have the time to breed the Pokemon, but I don't know if I can make it to the actual tourney. Sorry. :(

Kiwi
05-23-2008, 09:14 PM
i think im leaving around the 12th:(

BugCatcher6
05-26-2008, 11:37 AM
Still only 6 members for this tournament. I have seen a lot of people talking about wanting a Darkrai and if people would please get them one from the Toys R' Us event coming up. I am offering a Movie Darkrai for a prize in this tournament and it only takes a few battles to win it. I know some people don't battle, but the thing with tournaments is, the more people the better your chances of winning.

That is another reason I don't like doing tournaments for event Pokemon. I did a tournament not long ago for a Movie Darkrai and I believe I had 5 or 6 people sign up for that tournament as well. I will have to come up with another idea to give away my TRU Manaphy. Tournaments don't look like they draw as many people.

Brainhost
05-26-2008, 12:18 PM
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not here to sign up, just to nitpick.

Within the rules, the Self KO clause is incomplete. The first section of it states:

When both parties are down the last Pokémon, Self-K.O. movesautomatic loss for its user. (such as Explosion, Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Memento, etc.) will cause an
It's an unfinished scentence, and since you like being thorough, as you pointed out, I figured I'd hint at this one. Hope that helped!
- Brainhost

Trombones13
05-26-2008, 12:23 PM
Actually, the sentence is just switched up; see, it says "movesautomatic."

Sorry from me, too; I would sign up, but I'll be in France all next month, oui, oui. Good luck to those who do compete.

Brainhost
05-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Now that you've said so, I see that you are correct, but either way, that rule should be corrected, because unlike you, I wasn't smart enought to figure that out at first :D.

BugCatcher6
05-26-2008, 05:47 PM
Actaully it was a rule added when belnumcree asked about it, so I don't care if the sentence is not finished, OHKO Clause says enough.

Guilo
05-28-2008, 04:06 PM
Ok, so earlier I asked a question similar to this, but I wanted to know something else.

I asked "Do we have to breed our own pokemon for this tournament?" and you said yes, because if I was just giving out pokemon to people to use, I may as well just randomly give away the Darkrai.

My new question is this. Instead of breeding our own pokemon for this tournament, are we allowed to use pokemon from other events held by other members? I'm guessing we can't use the ones we've gotten, but I figured I may as well ask.

And I just thought of another. What section would Shroomish and Duskull fit under on the pokemon tiers? I didn't see them on the list.

Jhamin
05-28-2008, 05:19 PM
Isn't the tourney already started?

BugCatcher6
05-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Ok, so earlier I asked a question similar to this, but I wanted to know something else.

I asked "Do we have to breed our own pokemon for this tournament?" and you said yes, because if I was just giving out pokemon to people to use, I may as well just randomly give away the Darkrai.

My new question is this. Instead of breeding our own pokemon for this tournament, are we allowed to use pokemon from other events held by other members? I'm guessing we can't use the ones we've gotten, but I figured I may as well ask.

And I just thought of another. What section would Shroomish and Duskull fit under on the pokemon tiers? I didn't see them on the list.

Shroomish and Duskull fall under the NFE tier and have no ranking. The reason I said you have to breed your own, is because how is it fair if some people could have 3 people building one team.

But at this point not many people have entered so I may just start not caring if anyone breeds their own Pokemon or not. The idea of the Breeder's Cup and the tournaments I usually hold is I want to test breeding talents as well as battling.

The sign ups end on June 25th and the tournament starts on June 27th.

I currently have only 6 members in the tournament and I may just cancel it. This would be the second tournament I had to cancel for this Darkrai due to lack of participants.

6 members make a small bracket and quick tournament. Making every member battle each other always leads to some kinda problems.

Guilo
05-28-2008, 06:28 PM
I'm definately interested in this tournament, I've been wanting to participate in one for a while now. Don't change the rules just because enough people don't participate. You could always try making a tourney again.

I'll start breeding my pokemon as soon as I get my game card back from my cousin. I have no problem breeding my own pokemon, but I'm a very slow breeder, so I may not be ready to enter, we'll see. My main problem will be that my birthday is June 30th, and I'll have company over during the tournament, so I may not be able to participate.

Could I get you to put me down as a potential competitor, and I'll pm you sometime before the deadline if I can/can't make it?

revelp8
05-28-2008, 07:43 PM
bump dis! we need more people signing up! c'mon, a chance to win a darkrai!

Guilo
05-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Shroomish and Duskull fall under the NFE tier and have no ranking.


What is the NFE tier? Too bad they don't have a ranking. Just before I mailed my pokemon game to my cousin, I got an AWESOME Duskull.

BugCatcher6
05-29-2008, 01:40 AM
What is the NFE tier? Too bad they don't have a ranking. Just before I mailed my pokemon game to my cousin, I got an AWESOME Duskull.

NFE is not fully evolved. Most sites don't rank these Pokemon because why used under evolved Pokemon when you can fully evolve them? My answer is PokeFarm uses them and I am working on a system to get them all listed somehow.

Guilo
05-29-2008, 03:42 AM
Oh, ok, that makes sense.

If you're working on a way to get them all listed and useable for battles here, I will wait to EV train and evolve the Duskull.

BugCatcher6
05-29-2008, 01:50 PM
Oh, ok, that makes sense.

If you're working on a way to get them all listed and useable for battles here, I will wait to EV train and evolve the Duskull.

That won't be any time soon. There are like 223 Pokémon in the NFE tier.

Guilo
05-29-2008, 04:37 PM
I have some other Dusclops I can use anyways, and need to fill some other roles in my teams anyways, so I can wait. :)

If there's any way I can help, please let me know.

I had a great idea for a tournament Bug. Well, at least I thought it was a good idea. Would you mind if I pmed you and got your opinion on it?

Jhamin
05-29-2008, 04:48 PM
For whatever reason I thought it was *this* month. :confused:

If it is in June, than I am in. :)

BugCatcher6
05-30-2008, 12:39 AM
I have some other Dusclops I can use anyways, and need to fill some other roles in my teams anyways, so I can wait. :)

If there's any way I can help, please let me know.

I had a great idea for a tournament Bug. Well, at least I thought it was a good idea. Would you mind if I pmed you and got your opinion on it?


PM away.

The NFE Pokemon will not be ranked any time soon. We just tested 3 of the 230 something I mentioned and it seems the testing of them would need further testing. They were too strong for the NU tier, so they should be tested in the UU.


@Jhamin, I thought it was odd you did not join the tournament yet he-he.


Also for those in the tournament, WestCoastNinja is the only trainer to send a PM with his team to me.

BugCatcher6
06-02-2008, 08:54 PM
Sorry guys but I have to cancel the tournament.

revelp8
06-02-2008, 09:01 PM
what!!? whyyyyy? lameeeeeee.

NikolaTesla
06-02-2008, 09:33 PM
Thats too bad Buzz I just got wind of it. Very kind of you to offer the opportunity though.

soccergurl22
06-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Sorry guys but I have to cancel the tournament. Really? Why?

BugCatcher6
06-02-2008, 10:07 PM
I am not going into the reason.

soccergurl22
06-02-2008, 10:12 PM
I am not going into the reason.Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

Reptyler
06-05-2008, 08:58 PM
I was excited to sign up for this, too. Darn.

BugCatcher6
06-05-2008, 10:44 PM
Do to popular demand(well prank calls at 3 AM), I will go ahead and let this tournament go on as planned. I will put up a Japanese Movie Darkrai with the same move-set as the Toys R' Us Darkrai.

One change, I will not be around the weekend that this tournament is going on. Each member must battle the other members 1 time. Keeping track of who you battled, your wins, your losses, and how many Pokémon were left over. Wins and losses won't be the only thing to worry about. You leftover Pokémon or lack there of will be counted as points. Points will also go into figuring out ties.

To those that actually PM'd me your team, I will need them again. To those that are signed up in the first post, please post again if you still wish to be in the tournament.

pokemonmaster_146
06-08-2008, 06:27 AM
Do We Have To Pm You With Our Team?

Boba_fett66
06-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Boba fett66 here ill battle to!

BugCatcher6
06-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Do We Have To Pm You With Our Team?

Yes you do. I just need to check the teams and make sure everything is in order.

Also I have not had any teams turned in yet. Members that are still listed as wanting to battle, are you still interested?

Back up to 8 battlers.

I wonder where those that PM'd me upset about the tournament being canceled and how they wanted to enter got to?

I know this is rude, but don't PM me with nasty comments and then when I finally see enough support for a tournament, I decide to keep it going and now none of the complainers are around.

I know it is fun to bash the bug, but the bug does not forget and will remember when it comes time for future tournaments, farm events, and projects.

belnumcree
06-08-2008, 02:06 PM
Tournament Dates:
Sign ups: June 25th
Tournament Start: June 27th
Tournament End: June 29th

Just making sure, these are the current dates?

I'm in

BugCatcher6
06-08-2008, 02:08 PM
Just making sure, these are the current dates?

I'm in

Yes I should have mentioned that the dates would stay as listed on post one. I only mentioned the date change to try to have it so Nak would be able to battle.



WestCoastNinja - Mike - 4510 7090 8948 - Still In - Team PM'd

Soccergurl22 - Maddi - 0559 4798 1983
belnumcree - Tamara - 2663 9228 2430 - Still In

revelp8 - James - 1934 0172 6004 - Still In - Team PM'd
Father Animus - Rroni - 1031 7701 8846

puffdaddy - Eni - 0344 5753 5275
Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923 - Still In
Boba_fett66 - 5155 2990 4837 - Still In
Tyler - 4768 8583 9689 - Still In

Jhamin
06-08-2008, 04:17 PM
My team isn't actually ready yet, so it may be a week or two before I can get my team to you. I figure if signups aren't closed till the 25th, I should have no problem breeding up a couple more members of my team before then. I hate to email you a team that partially doesn't exist yet :)

BugCatcher6
06-08-2008, 05:16 PM
My team isn't actually ready yet, so it may be a week or two before I can get my team to you. I figure if signups aren't closed till the 25th, I should have no problem breeding up a couple more members of my team before then. I hate to email you a team that partially doesn't exist yet :)

Sounds good. No other teams PM'd yet either.

Shiny Lucario
06-08-2008, 09:52 PM
So when you say PM teams, do you mean everything? As in EV's and such?

BugCatcher6
06-08-2008, 10:41 PM
So when you say PM teams, do you mean everything? As in EV's and such?

Just the Pokémon you will be using. I keep a record of the team you will be using incase someone you battle has an argument about your team. I can say this is the team he/she sent me and it is o.k. Then they could say well this is the team he/she used to battle me. Not that any of that has ever happened, but I want to continue having my tournaments clean and with no arguments over he/she used this Pokémon.

Reptyler
06-13-2008, 09:19 PM
I'm in.

Tyler 4768 8583 9689

BugCatcher6
06-13-2008, 10:23 PM
WestCoastNinja - Mike - 4510 7090 8948 - Still In - Team PM'd

Soccergurl22 - Maddi - 0559 4798 1983
belnumcree - Tamara - 2663 9228 2430 - Still In

revelp8 - James - 1934 0172 6004 - Still In - Team PM'd
Father Animus - Rroni - 1031 7701 8846

puffdaddy - Eni - 0344 5753 5275
Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923 - Still In
Boba_fett66 - 5155 2990 4837 - Still In
reptyler - 4768 8583 9689 - Still In

BugCatcher6
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
WestCoastNinja - Mike - 4510 7090 8948 - Still In - Team PM'd

Soccergurl22 - Maddi - 0559 4798 1983
belnumcree - Tamara - 2663 9228 2430 - Still In

revelp8 - James - 1934 0172 6004 - Still In - Team PM'd
Father Animus - Rroni - 1031 7701 8846

puffdaddy - Eni - 0344 5753 5275
Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923 - Still In
Boba_fett66 - 5155 2990 4837 - Still In
reptyler - 4768 8583 9689 - Still In - Team PM'd

Days left until the start of this tournament. I have 2 teams PM'd to me and 6 members that say they are still in it. The ones that have not replied could maybe drop a post or a PM saying if they are in or out would be nice.

The ones that are still in, but have not PM'd their team yet, you can still change your team up to the day of the tournament, I just need a PM with your team to make sure everyone understands the tier and if anyone has a problem during the tournament I have a list of what you said you were bringing.

BugCatcher6
06-18-2008, 12:41 PM
WestCoastNinja - Mike - 4510 7090 8948 - Still In - Team PM'd

belnumcree - Tamara - 2663 9228 2430 - Still In

revelp8 - James - 1934 0172 6004 - Still In - Team PM'd
Father Animus - Rroni - 1031 7701 8846

Jhamin - 5069 3104 0923 - Still In
Boba_fett66 - 5155 2990 4837 - Still In
reptyler - 4768 8583 9689 - Still In - Team PM'd

I removed all the members that have not replied to say if they are in or out. If they can log on the site they should be able to PM me and say yes or no, just the polite thing to do.

So far 7 trainers. Each trainer will battle the others. Keeping track of your wins and losses and the Poke count after the battle. I will start a battle record thread for those in the tournament to keep track.

belnumcree
06-18-2008, 01:39 PM
Any other takers? :-D Still got a little over a week. :wink:

BugCatcher6
06-18-2008, 03:22 PM
Any other takers? :-D Still got a little over a week. :wink:

I think WCN scares them off. Plus two gym leaders in the tournament.

I would join, now is the time to beat them without their precious gym teams.

Plus who would not want bragging rights over beating WCN, even if it is NU/UU?

belnumcree
06-18-2008, 04:15 PM
I think WCN scares them off. Plus two gym leaders in the tournament.

I would join, now is the time to beat them without their precious gym teams.

Plus who would not want bragging rights over beating WCN, even if it is NU/UU?

Tell me about it. :D *is going to beat WCN someday* lol

BugCatcher6
06-18-2008, 04:34 PM
Tell me about it. :D *is going to beat WCN someday* lol

I have 1 win in 3 battles against him. I won by 1 and he won the other 2 by a total of 5, but I will brag about the 1 win no matter how many losses he gives me he-he.

Just need 1 time. Down to say belnumcree and WCN in the finals, 1 time means belnumcree wins. That should be my gyms motto, 1 time.

Like this one time at band camp. :D

revelp8
06-18-2008, 06:24 PM
dont caught me out for naught. last time everyone knew what they were up against, definitely mike was one tough cookie. but i know better now. hopefully. i think.

belnumcree
06-18-2008, 08:20 PM
dont caught me out for naught. last time everyone knew what they were up against, definitely mike was one tough cookie. but i know better now. hopefully. i think.

Hopefully we both do better. lol I don't think I won a match.

revelp8
06-18-2008, 08:46 PM
oh right. *grumble* old man. you'll gets whats coming! :twisted:

BugCatcher6
06-21-2008, 10:00 AM
Only WCN has created a battle post, Movie Darkrai Tournament Battle Record Thread (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=6735).

WCN is on point. First to sign up, first to PM his team, and first to setup his battle record.

First Place?

WestCoastNinja
06-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Maybe you should send out a mass pm? So far I only have 1 opponent. :wallbash:

belnumcree
06-21-2008, 09:57 PM
Maybe you should send out a mass pm? So far I only have 1 opponent. :wallbash:

You've got me. I just haven't turned in my team yet. Should have it done tomorrow. :D

BugCatcher6
06-22-2008, 11:44 AM
Fautor Animus has dropped out, down to 6.

10*dcr
06-22-2008, 12:11 PM
i'm in i'm the new 7

BugCatcher6
06-22-2008, 12:15 PM
i'm in i'm the new 7

You have until the end of this week to build a team of NU/UU and PM your team to me.

Tournament Dates:
Sign ups: June 25th
Tournament Start: June 27th
Tournament End: June 29th

revelp8
06-22-2008, 12:24 PM
c'mon peeps! sign up!! a chance to win a darkrai!!! who doesn't want one of these!!

BugCatcher6
06-22-2008, 09:36 PM
I know people just got a Darkrai from Toys R' Us, but this is a Japanese Movie Darkrai. Different OT and ID.

revelp8
06-22-2008, 10:26 PM
if only we can our hands on a JAP movie regigigas :sad:

then everyone would compete!

BugCatcher6
06-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Boba_fett66 has dropped out.

revelp8
06-22-2008, 10:37 PM
SERIOUSLY!! this is getting ridiculous!!! argh.

BugCatcher6
06-22-2008, 11:52 PM
Next month I was going to do a Manaphy tournament, but this has proved to be very disappointing. I know I canceled it and restarted it, but I had some personal issues to attend to and did not want the tournament to be ignored, but with so many people PMing and upset about it, I figured I would try to get the tournament done. Not to name any names, but I am glad I did restart this tournament. It shows me who was into it and those who were well.

Cinder
06-22-2008, 11:56 PM
I guess I'm signing up in the eleventh hour!

I wasn't going to participate at first because I already have my own Darkrai. But it looks like there aren't as many people competing as I thought there would be, and a tournament isn't much fun if there are only a handful of entrants, right?

belnumcree
06-23-2008, 12:08 AM
I guess I'm signing up in the eleventh hour!

I wasn't going to participate at first because I already have my own Darkrai. But it looks like there aren't as many people competing as I thought there would be, and a tournament isn't much fun if there are only a handful of entrants, right?

Woot. :D I'm glad you changed your mind. :D Make sure to double check the tiers here. :D

LovelyStrife
06-23-2008, 12:08 AM
Good luck Cinder!

I was thinking about joining, but I just can't be bothered to breed pokmeon worth using. I'm sorry Buzz, it looked like a really fun idea and I had some strategies in mind... Just like you, so much has been happening in my life and it makes it hard to give things the attention they deserve.

Don't let the low turn-out discourage you. I think this was an excellent idea and a great way to promote UU/NU pokemon.

Cinder
06-23-2008, 12:23 AM
Woot. :D I'm glad you changed your mind. :D Make sure to double check the tiers here. :D

I was just going over the tiers to make sure. Alas, looks like my trusty Torterra's gotta sit this one out. You guys are spared his leafy wrath until some other day. :D

BugCatcher6
06-23-2008, 12:24 AM
Woot. :D I'm glad you changed your mind. :D Make sure to double check the tiers here. :D

Did you make the changes to the BL & UU tiers like we talked about?

I really want to find a set tier instead of Smogon's Shoddy flavors of the month.

Wait until my next tournament. I have 3 ideas to choose from and all 3 require some thinking.

belnumcree
06-23-2008, 01:04 AM
Did you make the changes to the BL & UU tiers like we talked about?

I really want to find a set tier instead of Smogon's Shoddy flavors of the month.

Wait until my next tournament. I have 3 ideas to choose from and all 3 require some thinking.

*scratches head* I remember talking about it.... but don't remember if I changed anything. :oops: I don't remember which ones were being changed either. I know some of the changes we weren't going to make and some we were. I think I may have just copied the one you updated?

BugCatcher6
06-23-2008, 01:11 AM
*scratches head* I remember talking about it.... but don't remember if I changed anything. :oops: I don't remember which ones were being changed either. I know some of the changes we weren't going to make and some we were. I think I may have just copied the one you updated?

The one in the tournament area I cannot update, the one in the Poke Academy I can, but I was waiting until everything was definitely changed.


Just so everyone knows what the deal is and maybe have some input.
Smogon moved from the BL Tier to UU Tier, Drapion, Jynx, Leafeon, and Steelix. and From the UU tier to BL tier Pinsir.

I could see those 4 dropping to UU, but Pinsir I don't see as BL. Heracross outranks Pinsir and Pinsir's move pool is not deep enough to be a regualr on teams.

Jynx is basically Mr. Mime with Ice and Steelix has terrible type weaknesses. Drapion I think is really good, but he is not very popular on Shoddy so he got dropped to UU.

Like I said I could see dropping Drapion, Jynx, Leafeon, and Steelix, but Pinsir is not the beast he needs to be in the BL tier.

revelp8
06-23-2008, 01:39 AM
i thought we had our own tiers??

meh, doesn't make much of a difference. :rolleyes:

BugCatcher6
06-23-2008, 01:45 AM
i thought we had our own tiers??

meh, doesn't make much of a difference. :rolleyes:

We started to make our own tiers, but when discussions would happen most of them ended up I think Pokémon X should be OU because I likes him and he is cool. I wanted tiers based on power and not popularity.

I wonder if this banter will bring traffic to the tournament?

Dr. Narnad
06-24-2008, 06:17 PM
Like I said I could see dropping Drapion, Jynx, Leafeon, and Steelix, but Pinsir is not the beast he needs to be in the BL tier.

Sweet, we can now use Steelix? Well I am in. So many options.

Narnad
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Reptyler
06-24-2008, 07:11 PM
You guys are toast now that I can use Leafeon. :P

revelp8
06-24-2008, 07:19 PM
uhh, i don't think you should be posting about whats going to be on your team. :lol:

but please, do go on ^.^

belnumcree
06-24-2008, 07:36 PM
You guys are toast now that I can use Leafeon. :P

Leafeon hasn't been moved on our tiers yet. Click (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=2162)

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 07:39 PM
No changes have been made to any tiers yet. Discussions still have not made it a solid change. Should our tiers be based solely by Smogon's?

belnumcree
06-24-2008, 07:47 PM
No changes have been made to any tiers yet. Discussions still have not made it a solid change. Should our tiers be based solely by Smogon's?

I would prefer not, but tbh it would be a lot easier. :(

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 08:20 PM
I would prefer not, but tbh it would be a lot easier. :(

The only reason I go by theirs is to keep the potential issue of, well Smogon says. So maybe after this tournament it can be discussed more.

belnumcree
06-24-2008, 08:27 PM
The only reason I go by theirs is to keep the potential issue of, well Smogon says. So maybe after this tournament it can be discussed more.

That would be awesome. :D Honestly, if we were to come up with our own tier system, most of the pokemon would stay the same, but at least it would be static. :D I know you've had some suggestions in the past on how to do it, I have a few to add as well. :D

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 08:30 PM
That would be awesome. :D Honestly, if we were to come up with our own tier system, most of the pokemon would stay the same, but at least it would be static. :D I know you've had some suggestions in the past on how to do it, I have a few to add as well. :D

The problem with creating tiers comes down to two things. One popularity and that makes the current tiers as is and people will always disagree.

The second would be stats, which would make tiers uber, strong, weak, and :(:(:(:(.

Reptyler
06-24-2008, 09:32 PM
uhh, i don't think you should be posting about whats going to be on your team. :lol:

but please, do go on ^.^

Actually Leafeon wasn't the one I was most excited about, but that's okay. It doesn't seem like any changes will be made prior to the tournament, so my team will stay the same.

Well, it's not the same list I pmed originally, so I think I better pm someone about that ...

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 10:10 PM
The following members have not PM'd their team yet.


Jhamin


The following members have not made their battle record post yet.


Jhamin
10*dcr

The battle record thread can be found here (http://forum.pokefarm.com/showthread.php?t=6735).


With this tournament still getting good support from the die hard battlers, I will be holding a special Manaphy tournament next month.

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 10:48 PM
Narnad has entered.

WestCoastNinja
06-24-2008, 11:01 PM
My wifi has been acting up so I may have to drop out.:( Not yet but im just giving you guys a heads up.

BugCatcher6
06-24-2008, 11:30 PM
My wifi has been acting up so I may have to drop out.:( Not yet but im just giving you guys a heads up.

Man that stinks. I put $150 on you to win. :eek:

Your mustache guy still creeps me out he-he.

WestCoastNinja
06-24-2008, 11:33 PM
Im not so sure I can win. Most of the pokes on my team share a common weakness.

belnumcree
06-24-2008, 11:33 PM
Im not so sure I can win. Most of the pokes on my team share a common weakness.

Which is? :twisted: lol j/k

WestCoastNinja
06-24-2008, 11:55 PM
I'll never tell! :eek:

Concore
06-25-2008, 05:37 PM
I would have loved to take part, but SSBB is released in Europe on the June 27th, so I'm gonna be addicted to that! :-D

revelp8
06-25-2008, 06:21 PM
that was rather pointless >.> you got my hopes up for nothing

revelp8
06-25-2008, 11:19 PM
w00t! tourney starts...tomorrow?

:edit: i got carried away, starts friday...thanks narnad

Dr. Narnad
06-25-2008, 11:23 PM
w00t! tourney starts...tomorrow?

I think your one day ahead. I think it starts on Friday. :-P

BugCatcher6
06-25-2008, 11:29 PM
If you and your opponent both have teams turned in and record post made, have at it.

revelp8
06-25-2008, 11:47 PM
anyone wanna have at it then!!? *looks at two new badges*

im not going to be easy :twisted:

BugCatcher6
06-26-2008, 12:08 AM
anyone wanna have at it then!!? *looks at two new badges*

im not going to be easy :twisted:

But your Beacon badge did not come from me. :cool:

revelp8
06-26-2008, 12:13 AM
true. man, if only i didn't make those mistakes back then. but i guess you can say, i truly learned from the best. ^.^

BugCatcher6
06-26-2008, 12:17 AM
true. man, if only i didn't make those mistakes back then. but i guess you can say, i truly learned from the best. ^.^

That was going to be my next burn. It looks like winning the Chrysalis Badge put you on the path of badge winner he-he. You are welcome. I try to drop knowledge whenever possible.

BugCatcher6
06-27-2008, 12:43 PM
Good luck to everyone this weekend.

WestCoastNinja
06-27-2008, 10:44 PM
TUrns out the guy I leech my wifi off of is on a bussiness trip.:lol:

So I might not be able to do this.:(

Dr. Narnad
06-27-2008, 10:46 PM
Dang that sucks. Just break in and reset it. I don't think he will mind. This way its fixed for when he comes home from the trip. ;)

Just make sure to put on a big mustache while your doing that and everything will be all right, it turns it from a break in into a prank. And everybody loves pranks.

BugCatcher6
06-28-2008, 01:09 AM
Wow you and Kate both use the neighbors wireless he-he. Kate's neighbor likes to interrupt of IV battles. He has no manors when it comes to Kate needing his connection. :)

revelp8
06-28-2008, 03:24 PM
anyone available for a match? i won't be on for long, so i could probably get one match in today at the least

BugCatcher6
06-28-2008, 03:31 PM
anyone available for a match? i won't be on for long, so i could probably get one match in today at the least

Wow this tournament does not look like it is going well. Maybe you can get in one battle and win your match and win the tournament with one win he-he.

revelp8
06-28-2008, 03:40 PM
if anyone is on then sure, unless....the tournament head official would like to battle instead :twisted:

belnumcree
06-28-2008, 03:40 PM
Wow this tournament does not look like it is going well. Maybe you can get in one battle and win your match and win the tournament with one win he-he.

You are so pessimistic. lol


Great match Cinder. :D

I can in a few minutes Revel. :D

BugCatcher6
06-28-2008, 03:42 PM
You are so pessimistic. lol


Great match Cinder. :D

I can in a few minutes Revel. :D

I am trying everything short of calling everyone little babies to get them interested he-he.:)

No offense to any members that happen to be little babies. Oh and you babies should be taking a nap he-he.

And no not your old man nap belnum.

*does not fear the newspaper, I hid it he-he.*

belnumcree
06-28-2008, 03:43 PM
I am trying everything short of calling everyone little babies to get them interested he-he.:)

No offense to any members that happen to be little babies. Oh and you babies should be taking a nap he-he.

:oops: That's why I told Revel in a few minutes. Nap Time :D lol j/k (What's wrong with old man naps? :( )

Cinder
06-28-2008, 03:44 PM
Great match Cinder. :D

Likewise, of course! :)

I'll be available a little later today for anyone else who needs to beat me!

BugCatcher6
06-28-2008, 03:45 PM
Oh I would like to give Mike a bit more time to maybe get his wi-fi back, but I have to ask if he is unable do you think we should give everyone a win against him and count it as 1 point? 6 points seem like they could change the tides of the tournament.

revelp8
06-28-2008, 03:46 PM
ahh. i actually need to go >.> *sigh* RL coming atcha. if your on later in the evening or tomorrow morning, that'd be great. but other than that, toodles! *what bad timing....seriously*

belnumcree
06-28-2008, 03:47 PM
Oh I would like to give Mike a bit more time to maybe get his wi-fi back, but I have to ask if he is unable do you think we should give everyone a win against him and count it as 1 point? 6 points seem like they could change the tides of the tournament.

Would you have to count it?

Cinder
06-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Would you have to count it?

I agree; if he can't participate, I'm not sure there's a compelling reason to hand out bonus points for "winning" against him.

BugCatcher6
06-28-2008, 09:01 PM
Would you have to count it?

I don't remember him signing up. I don't even recall him making a battle record post, hint hint he-he.

Na all joking aside, if he is unable it will be like he did not sign up, no penalties or rewards.

Holy :(:(:(:( who angered the belnum? 2 wins and 7 points already, wow.

Also how ironic is Narnad's battles so far? That is like classic Narnad, I always break even he-he. Maybe one to many episodes of Seinfeld. :)

belnumcree
06-29-2008, 02:55 PM
Jhamin. :D Excellent battle, I thought i had that battle, but you made one heck of a comeback there. I see why your opponents fear Meme. :D

Jhamin
06-29-2008, 03:04 PM
Your opener really crippled two of my pokemon, I really thought I was done. (And darn it, I really wish I had brought my Mankey!). I really liked your team build, it was filled with really tough Pokemon that complimented each other.

Uncle Mame saves my bacon one again :cool:.

belnumcree
06-29-2008, 03:08 PM
Your opener really crippled two of my pokemon, I really thought I was done. (And darn it, I really wish I had brought my Mankey!). I really liked your team build, it was filled with really tough Pokemon that complimented each other.

Uncle Mame saves my bacon one again :cool:.

Thank you. Yours was as well. I really wanted to build one similar to your lead for the tourney, but alas I ran outta time. :D It is the ultimate support pokemon. :D

revelp8
06-29-2008, 06:03 PM
great match there. most of my pokes were weak against EQ v.v'

Jhamin
06-29-2008, 06:06 PM
Lucky for me :)

Otherwise I suspect I would have really gone through the wringer. I'm impressed how tough many of your team was, they did not go down easily.

revelp8
06-29-2008, 06:11 PM
my poor shiny didn't even get to play >.>

Dr. Narnad
06-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Has anyone battled Reptyler yet or seen em around?

Jhamin
06-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Cinder that battle was really exciting, but you violated the duplicate item clause. Two of your Pokemon used leftovers.

Cinder
06-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Cinder that battle was really exciting, but you violated the duplicate item clause. Two of your Pokemon used leftovers.

Yep. I was going to have taken the leftovers off that one Pokemon after doing some battles last night, but it slipped my mind and I didn't notice until partway into the battle. My fault there, I ought to have checked first to make sure.

belnumcree
06-29-2008, 06:30 PM
Has anyone battled Reptyler yet or seen em around?

He was on, but logged just as I sent a PM.

Jhamin
06-29-2008, 06:33 PM
Yep. I was going to have taken the leftovers off that one Pokémon after doing some battles last night, but it slipped my mind and I didn't notice until partway into the battle. My fault there, I ought to have checked first to make sure.

Well, its the pot calling the kettle black. As I was your first battle there really is no reason you can't fix your items and continue with the rest of the Tournament.


As for the PM you sent me, You are correct, one of my team was BL and not UU/NU.

I was sure I triple checked but I apparently made an error. (Did Tauros move tiers recently :confused:). The error was not caught my me, the tournament sponsor, or the first three people I battled. It was an honest mistake, but my team is illegal under the rules Bugcatcher setup. Using a BL sort of defeats the purpose of a UU/NU tournament. :oops:

As I have already had three battles with my (illegal) team I feel the only Honorable thing to do is withdraw myself from the competition. Everyone who has battled me should readjust their scores to pretend I was never in the tourney.

I'll see everyone next time. (Shoot, I was having such fun too :()

Dr. Narnad
06-29-2008, 07:46 PM
I guess another one to add too is 10*dcr. I haven't seen him or Reptyler around at all.

I guess it is still early in the tournament. *said sarcastically*

BugCatcher6
06-29-2008, 07:55 PM
I guess another one to add too is 10*dcr. I haven't seen him or Reptyler around at all.

I guess it is still early in the tournament. *said sarcastically*


Now 10*dcr PM'd me like on Friday or something saying the tournament is suppose to go on today but you did not tell me who I was battling. I said you see the list of participants? He said yeah. I replied all of them.

I should have guessed those new to the tournament scene would be the first to vanish.:(


Jhamin I am so sorry. I just automatically thought Tauros was UU. I don't remember him being BL. My list shows him as UU, but the tier list on the site shows BL. He must have changed in January when the list was last updated.

That is completely my fault.

Jhamin
06-29-2008, 09:26 PM
Jhamin I am so sorry. I just automatically thought Tauros was UU. I don't remember him being BL. My list shows him as UU, but the tier list on the site shows BL. He must have changed in January when the list was last updated.


It's not a problem. I'm kind of bummed because I'm pretty sure I had a shot at one of the top two slots. Tauros only actually got to do anything in my battle with Cinder. He didn't come out in two of my fights (three if you count the "for fun" one I had with Narnad) and he got one-shotted against Belnum.

All the same, rules are rules and I broke them. While no one else noticed until Cinder, it is ultimately my responsibility to follow the rules. Good luck to everyone else!

BugCatcher6
06-30-2008, 12:12 AM
It's not a problem. I'm kind of bummed because I'm pretty sure I had a shot at one of the top two slots. Tauros only actually got to do anything in my battle with Cinder. He didn't come out in two of my fights (three if you count the "for fun" one I had with Narnad) and he got one-shotted against Belnum.

All the same, rules are rules and I broke them. While no one else noticed until Cinder, it is ultimately my responsibility to follow the rules. Good luck to everyone else!

Yeah but I was the tournament director and the NU/UU gym leader. I am completely ashamed that I missed it.

BugCatcher6
06-30-2008, 10:19 PM
Is it me or does it look like belnumcree won?

Cinder
06-30-2008, 11:02 PM
Is it me or does it look like belnumcree won?

That's how it seems to me, yeah.

WestCoastNinja
06-30-2008, 11:45 PM
Sorry I couldent make it this time guys. Maybe next time.;)

belnumcree
06-30-2008, 11:49 PM
Sorry I couldent make it this time guys. Maybe next time.;)

Actually if your up to it, I still want a match when you have time and WiFi is working. :-D

WestCoastNinja
06-30-2008, 11:53 PM
Actually if your up to it, I still want a match when you have time and WiFi is working. :-D
Your on!:D

belnumcree
06-30-2008, 11:59 PM
Your on!:D

:woot: Awesome. :D

BugCatcher6
07-01-2008, 12:53 AM
Sorry I couldent make it this time guys. Maybe next time.;)

Don't feel sorry. You are one the most active battlers when it comes to tournaments, one missed is nothing to be ashamed of.