Discussion/Questions

[Whitdjinn]

Any questions/comments/feedback about the league? Post it here.

Also feel free to start any discussion/question threads in this forum, I will sticky important threads as I need to.

As long as it is relevant to the EPFL, it can go in this thread.

Thanks!

[nana nettie]

Ok, I have the first question. How will it effect the league if I sign up, but am gone for a few days? Will it hurt the other members? Will they be upset? Will there be subs for people who need to be away from the site for a few days?

I guess that's more than 1 question :oops:

[Kiwi]

Ok, I have the first question. How will it effect the league if I sign up, but am gone for a few days? Will it hurt the other members? Will they be upset? Will there be subs for people who need to be away from the site for a few days?

I guess that's more than 1 question :oops:


that would probably be a problem for me too.. if youre gone for a few days you could catch up couldn't you?

[Whitdjinn]

The idea is to allow a full week to get the battles in...Matchups posted on Friday, one week, battles are due the following Thursday at Midnight.

If there are battles that aren't done, right now I'm anticipating there being no points for either player for that battle. In the scheme of things, someone missing a full week will probably be pretty impactful for that person, but not the others in that group.

I can't say that I would be against using subs from outside the league, if it was a planned absence and it was communicated well a day or so in advance.

[nana nettie]

Thanks Whit :) I'd really like to give it a shot, but if I'm not able to battle, I wouldn't want it to hurt another member.

[Whitdjinn]

Thanks Whit :) I'd really like to give it a shot, but if I'm not able to battle, I wouldn't want it to hurt another member.

I completely understand, I want to be sure there is as much time as possible to get battles in...hopefully if there is going to be a full week in which you aren't available, it'll be a situation where you can at least pop on, let us all know, and give us the name of a sub.

If that absolutely can't happen, I would probably give a win to those the absent person was supposed to battle.

[nana nettie]

Awesome! :)

My questions have been answered :)

[Death By Bronzong]

Are species clause and Self K.O. clause in effect?

[revelp8]

hopefully the species clause is, i never want to face 3 infernapes ever again >.>

[Whitdjinn]

Species Clause, yes....What exactly does the self KO clause state? Is it the same as the gym battles use?

[S Tailor]

Species Clause, yes....What exactly does the self KO clause state? Is it the same as the gym battles use?

Yep. If you both are on your last pokemon and you use a self KO move and kill both pokemon, then the person who used the Self KO move loses

[NikolaTesla]

This is a fantastic idea Whit! I'd love to battle but unfortunately my time must be devoted elsewhere. Maybe next season.

[Rayfox-Kun]

hey whit just wondering and i know this is probably a stupid question but we have to battle three whole times with a full team of 6 pokemon on the wifi lv100 right?:confused:


im sorry for asking but i kind of forgot and i wanted to make sure

[Whitdjinn]

3 matches, each of (up to 3 battles, could be 2 if one person wins both) on Single Battle lvl 100 (Voice chat off)

Yep, thats the plan. If i get too much feedback that it takes too long, then we will switch to the lvl 50, but I want to give this a go for the first week.

And remember - it's not that you HAVE to, its that you GET to :P

You also have a full week to get it done, thats anywhere from 6 to 9 battles during the week.

And no, it wasn't a stupid question, any opportunity for clarification is a good one!

[Rayfox-Kun]

ok i get it know thanks whit cant wait till the battling starts this or next week:)

[revelp8]

can i get a different match up pleasssssseeeeeeeee!?

[Whitdjinn]

lol, don't worry, by the end of it all you will have faced everyone, It is going to end up being a round-robin style season.

[revelp8]

man. alright. just trying to see if i could. first match up against him! blah. is there going to be a point system or just the ol win/loss deal?

[Whitdjinn]

win/loss basically, though there is a point system that will be used for tie breakers...

Here's a scenario:

lets suppose that the top 8 players will enter the playoffs. Here are the top 10 after the regular season:

Player 1 - 20-0
Player 2 - 19-1
Player 3 - 17-3
Player 4 - 17-3
Player 5 - 16-4
Player 6 - 13-7
Player 7 - 12-8
Player 8 - 11-9
Player 9 - 11-9
Player 10 - 11-9


So, you see that players 8-10 are all tied with a record of 11 wins and 9 losses.

If player 8's losses were all 0-2 losses
an player 9's losses were 5 at 0-2, 4 at 1-2.
an player 10's losses were all 1-2 losses.

A point will be granted for a battle win in losing matches, giving player 8 zero tie breaker points, player 9 four points, and player 10 will get nine tie breaker points, giving player 10 the final playoff spot.

Does that make sense or did it just confuse more?

And by the way - you can fight those battles in any order you like :P

[revelp8]

ooh, i have another interesting idea/question. if we sweep an opponent 6-0, can the player get some kind of...immunity?

[Whitdjinn]

immunity to what? No one's getting voted off :P

If a player - after being swept 6-0 wants to concede the match, thats fine. The losing player would officially concede the 2nd game, and the match would go down as an 2-0 win.

[Gouswer]

I don't exactly like the sub idea. Not that you're allowed to choose anyone anyways. You should have it so that there is no subbing for the first 3 weeks,then once the leaderboards somehow show who is on the top at the moment, you are alllow to choose a sub. But your sub must have a worse battle record than yours. That way you can't just choose the top battler to fight your battles for you. Thats just a thought.

[LovelyStrife]

I don't exactly like the sub idea. Not that you're allowed to choose anyone anyways. You should have it so that there is no subbing for the first 3 weeks,then once the leaderboards somehow show who is on the top at the moment, you are alllow to choose a sub. But your sub must have a worse battle record than yours. That way you can't just choose the top battler to fight your battles for you. Thats just a thought.

I don't think there should be restrictions on subs. If you're not able to battle for ligitimate reasons then anybody you can get to fill in should be acceptable, good battle record or bad. I also think it's unfair not to allow subs for the first three weeks. What if something pops up? Why should my battle record have to automatically forefit? It would skew the rankings at least as bad as if you used a sub.

What I want to know is if we can get a sub who isn't signed up for the extended league. I might not have access to wifi the first week of September and I'm trying to make preparations for that now.

[Gouswer]

I don't think there should be restrictions on subs. If you're not able to battle for ligitimate reasons then anybody you can get to fill in should be acceptable, good battle record or bad. I also think it's unfair not to allow subs for the first three weeks. What if something pops up? Why should my battle record have to automatically forefit? It would skew the rankings at least as bad as if you used a sub.

What I want to know is if we can get a sub who isn't signed up for the extended league. I might not have access to wifi the first week of September and I'm trying to make preparations for that now.

Well, if for some reason you can't make it, then there should be some kind of disadvantage to that. It doesn't matter it if its your fault or not. In this case the disadvantage should be that you must allow someone to battle for you who is in the same skill level as you or below yours. Or else it wouldn't be as the persons who were supposed to battle you, would be battling you.

PS: I just sent the people who are supposed to battle me PM's with times i which I can battle. What do I do if they do not respond?

[LovelyStrife]

Well, if for some reason you can't make it, then there should be some kind of disadvantage to that. It doesn't matter it if its your fault or not. In this case the disadvantage should be that you must allow someone to battle for you who is in the same skill level as you or below yours. Or else it wouldn't be as the persons who were supposed to battle you, would be battling you.

PS: I just sent the people who are supposed to battle me PM's with times i which I can battle. What do I do if they do not respond?

Okay, lets punish people for have real life responsibilities and obligations. :-D I know that next time somebody dies in my family I'll tell them to better schedule the funeral. Then there will be no worries at all! ^_^

I would send them another message or two when I see them online. If they don't respond after that then I would talk to Whit about it, he's organizing the entire thing and could be an embassador for you.

[S Tailor]

Well, if for some reason you can't make it, then there should be some kind of disadvantage to that. It doesn't matter it if its your fault or not. In this case the disadvantage should be that you must allow someone to battle for you who is in the same skill level as you or below yours. Or else it wouldn't be as the persons who were supposed to battle you, would be battling you.

PS: I just sent the people who are supposed to battle me PM's with times i which I can battle. What do I do if they do not respond?

I guess they lose. I have to agree with there should be a disadvantage. If you don't make it there should be a penalty of some sort.

[Gouswer]

Okay, lets punish people for have real life responsibilities and obligations. :-D I know that next time somebody dies in my family I'll tell them to better schedule the funeral. Then there will be no worries at all! ^_^

I would send them another message or two when I see them online. If they don't respond after that then I would talk to Whit about it, he's organizing the entire thing and could be an embassador for you.

I'm not talking punishing, but you shouldn't give them the privilige of letting the best battle for them.

[nana nettie]

I understand what you are trying to say. I would think that the member needing the sub would probably submit it to Whit first.
As far as myself, I honestly don't think anyone will be fearing me. I am not a teenager (or young adult), I have a Husband, teenager, grandaughter, and a lot of medical issues right now. The main reason for me asking about subs to begin with, I don't want it to hurt other players in the tourney, not for me to bring in a ringer to better my position.

One more thing.....this was brought up earlier, so if you had a problem with it, why didn't you say so then :confused:

[T roo]

2 out of three of the people I'm facing are people who have trumphed me in the past. This is going to be bad:)

[Gouswer]

I understand what you are trying to say. I would think that the member needing the sub would probably submit it to Whit first.
As far as myself, I honestly don't think anyone will be fearing me. I am not a teenager (or young adult), I have a Husband, teenager, grandaughter, and a lot of medical issues right now. The main reason for me asking about subs to begin with, I don't want it to hurt other players in the tourney, not for me to bring in a ringer to better my position.

One more thing.....this was brought up earlier, so if you had a problem with it, why didn't you say so then :confused:

Well, I didn't really read the thread then. I just looked over it today while I was looking at the matchups and noticed the subbing thing:D. It's not that you would loose the match, its just that you'd have to choose someone of your skill level to battle for you.

[nana nettie]

I don't plan on getting a sub, but I can't say if I will be away from the sight either. I just brought it to Whit. If it will make you feel better, I'll just forfeit my matches if for some reason I am away :) I just hope nothing causes you to be away from the tourney :sad:

[Gouswer]

Ah, I'm not asking for you to forfeit your matches:o, plz don't. And why would I quit the tourny, its time to show what battling in shoddy for 2 months did to my skills:cool:

[Whitdjinn]

The sub thing:

If you are to be absent for the entire 'week' that battles are to take place, then you may, after informing me ahead of time, find a sub from outside the league and making arrangements with them to battle for you. any record they achieve while performing these battles for you will be attributed to your score. If this is abused, then I reserve the right to revoke your ability to assign a sub.

Note: This is only for planned absences...anything that is unplanned will be dealt with at the time. Communication is key. Make-up matches are not out of the question.

[Gouswer]

The sub thing:

If you are to be absent for the entire 'week' that battles are to take place, then you may, after informing me ahead of time, find a sub from outside the league and making arrangements with them to battle for you. any record they achieve while performing these battles for you will be attributed to your score. If this is abused, then I reserve the right to revoke your ability to assign a sub.

Note: This is only for planned absences...anything that is unplanned will be dealt with at the time. Communication is key. Make-up matches are not out of the question.

What do you mean with dealt at the time? If The person doesn't show up and doesn't tell anyone anything, what happens then?

[Whitdjinn]

most likely a make-up match will be scheduled with a cut-off date set...i'm really hoping that everyone signed up with the intention of being available for 90% or more of their matches..

[revelp8]

well then they won't get the score. simple as that i think. I would like to think highly of whit prepping for no shows already, so i believe he knows what to do with that. :D

[Gouswer]

most likely a make-up match will be scheduled with a cut-off date set...i'm really hoping that everyone signed up with the intention of being available for 90% or more of their matches..

Oh that's good, I thought it said made up matches, lol. As if you wanted us to make up the results of them :lol: Couldn't we just use the make up matches thingy for planned aubsenses aswell? To eliminate subbing at all.

[cyndaquilannie]

What do you do in case of a disconnect?
And, no, s_tailor I'm not trying to be whiny : )
I just want to know the "official" answer.

[S Tailor]

What do you do in case of a disconnect?
And, no, s_tailor I'm not trying to be whiny : )
I just want to know the "official" answer.

Meh I guess rematch. That first match was probably my best. Either way out of the 3 matches I still won

[cyndaquilannie]

Meh I guess rematch. That first match was probably my best. Either way out of the 3 matches I still won

I already know your answer! lol
It would've still been a bit better for my record to lose 1-2... or do you only record the of the whole match?

[revelp8]

i got done with all my matches. all of them very exciting and tiring. but i have to say, ray gave me a fight ill never forget.

[Rayfox-Kun]

i got done with all my matches. all of them very exciting and tiring. but i have to say, ray gave me a fight ill never forget.


aww thanks thats nice of you but seriously im still a rookie i gots loads to learn :) it was a fun match though

[Kiwi]

Because of school and the time zone I'll be having to leave the EPFL, I'll try get my last 2 battles(Whit and Jats) before I leave, but I probably won't be able to.:(

[S Tailor]

I have a battle with Davewoop who hasn't logged on since the 12th. What happens to me if He doesn't log on today?

[NikolaTesla]

how will you handle new players entering next season?

[LovelyStrife]

I'm supposed to have a battle with Trombones13 but he hasn't answered any messages or been on that I've seen for over a week. How are we handeling no-shows/ignorers?

[S Tailor]

I'm supposed to have a battle with Trombones13 but he hasn't answered any messages or been on that I've seen for over a week. How are we handeling no-shows/ignorers?

Same as my problem :(

[Alirrath]

It seems davewoop has been a noshow all week. He logged on once i think that entire week and none of us have had a chance to battle him.

[Gouswer]

I have the same problem. Jats didn't show up for the match we sheduled and hasn't been on since the day before the match was supposed to take place.

[Rayfox-Kun]

I do too my opponent hasnt been on yes we tried to battle one day but we had too many wifi errors and my last opponent is Jhamin i havent seen him in a long while so what do i do?

[cyndaquilannie]

Death By Bronzong hasn't showed either. He did have a message saying he would be back one the 20th, but I havent seen him on.

[Whitdjinn]

please see my latest announcement with a hopefully fair, if not ideal way to resolve absences.

[Gouswer]

I dont get this rule

If at the end of the season there are outstanding battles among participants 'in good standing' they will count as losses for both participants.

[Whitdjinn]

I dont get this rule

If at the end of the season there are outstanding battles among participants 'in good standing' they will count as losses for both participants.

At the end of the season (the 7-8 week season) if there are 1 or 2 of the REMAINING participants that you haven't battled, then they will count as losses.

Closer to the end I will post a definite date to be the FINAL deadline for these matches. Again, this will be sometime in October, so for matches that are being missed right now, there is plenty of time to get them in...if the matches that aren't done yet are by participants who are AWOL, then there will be no penalty, as none of the matches for the dismissed participant will be counted towards the final standings.

[Death By Bronzong]

Death By Bronzong hasn't showed either. He did have a message saying he would be back one the 20th, but I havent seen him on.

I'm sorry, I had a problem with bus scheduling to come back and so didn't get back until today. I again truly apologize for the inconvenience, and can battle now.

[Whitdjinn]

WooHoo welcome back! Glad you got back OK!

[HMTKSteve]

I only managed to get one battle in... and I lost :(

[Seth]

Does brightpowder break evasion clause? What about sandveil and brightpowder? I don't use these but i want to be totally sure.

[Babael]

Does brightpowder break evasion clause? What about sandveil and brightpowder? I don't use these but i want to be totally sure.

Only the moves Double Team and Minimize break the evasion clause.

[Jats605]

due to lack of time i am withdrawing for the leage (untill i dont have to worry about school) srry for the trouble

[Whitdjinn]

Thanks for trying Jats! Best of luck with your scholarly work.


Other battlers: Jats will continue to show on the schedule but should be treated as a 'Bye' until I take the time to change it.

[Gouswer]

EDIT: Oops ,wrong part of the SubForum =p

[nana nettie]

Because of some unexpected RL issues, I haven't been able to battle S Tailor and DBB. I have spoken with Whit, and he is allowing me to use a sub. Momtaro wil be helping me out until I can resume the tourney. Thanks guys :)

LS, we'll finish ours as soon as I come back next week :)

[LovelyStrife]

Because of some unexpected RL issues, I haven't been able to battle S Tailor and DBB. I have spoken with Whit, and he is allowing me to use a sub. Momtaro wil be helping me out until I can resume the tourney. Thanks guys :)

LS, we'll finish ours as soon as I come back next week :)

Not a problem, I'll have supradic access to wifi all of this week anyways. I am still messing with wifi settings, so there is some hope. If not then I may need a sub.... But i would rather just see if I can get the battles in when i'm back home next week. We'll see what happens when I play with the internet tomorrow.

[S Tailor]

Because of some unexpected RL issues, I haven't been able to battle S Tailor and DBB. I have spoken with Whit, and he is allowing me to use a sub. Momtaro wil be helping me out until I can resume the tourney. Thanks guys :)

LS, we'll finish ours as soon as I come back next week :)

Momtaro? Okie Dokie I'll find her. Now back to breeding...

[Gouswer]

Whit, say someone broke the sleep clause, does that match count as a loss for them? Or do we just start the match over again?

[HMTKSteve]

Are players allowed to leave the match and reconfigure their team between battles?

[Seth]

A players allowed to leave the match and reconfigure their team between battles?

Yes, they are.

@Gouswer, I think it counts for a loss, that's how it was played in another match I know of.

[Gouswer]

Yes, they are.

@Gouswer, I think it counts for a loss, that's how it was played in another match I know of.

Does it >=], I might have a trick up my sleeve then.

[Seth]

Does it >=], I might have a trick up my sleeve then.

The instance i know of involved someone being tricked into breaking it. I don't know exactly how legal that is though. That is probably the question we should be asking.

[Whitdjinn]

I think that breaking a clause intentionally would be a game/battle loss.

[Seth]

I think that breaking a clause intentionally would be a game/battle loss.

But, what if someone encored hypnosis and switched pokemon.

[N0t2f34r]

But, what if someone encored hypnosis and switched pokemon.

You can't encore hypnosis...if it fails encore fails, and if it hits then your asleep, even if you switch to another pokemon, you still won't be able to use it. The only way I can think of is sleep talking encore...which is very unlikely.

[Seth]

You can't encore hypnosis...if it fails encore fails, and if it hits then your asleep, even if you switch to another pokemon, you still won't be able to use it. The only way I can think of is sleep talking encore...which is very unlikely.

Well I didn't really think that through, you're right. Just a question though.

[N0t2f34r]

Well I didn't really think that through, you're right. Just a question though.

It would be amazing if you pulled it off...lol

[HMTKSteve]

What if you Encore Stealth Rock?

[N0t2f34r]

I belive it fails if you use it more than once, I'm not farmilliar with SR myself. The only way I can see of forcing a break of the sleep clause is in a double battle,

[Gouswer]

Well, lets say someone sleep a pokemon at the beggining of the game, then the sleeping poke's trainer switches him out. Then later, the other trainer forgets about that sleeping pokemon and sleeps another pokemon. What would happen then?

[Whitdjinn]

It would be a violation of the sleep clause. You need to know what the status of the team your facing is. Honestly since it is so hard to police I would leave it up to the player who had the 2 sleeping pokemon. If they want to continue as is, fine...if they want the game loss...fine, if they want to wipe the slate clean and start that battle over, fine...its their choice since they were the one offended.

[Kiwi]

I know I'm not in the competition anymore. But You could probably encore Yawn, ould that count as breaking the sleep clause?

[Gouswer]

I know I'm not in the competition anymore. But You could probably encore Yawn, ould that count as breaking the sleep clause?

Couldnt the Encored person just switch out knowing this would happen -_-?

[Seth]

What do I do if my opponent refuses to battle me for now reason except "cus"?

[revelp8]

maybe their busy with something and not really feels like sharing that big of info. its very rude not to tell you why, but hey, you can't do much about it.

[Seth]

maybe their busy with something and not really feels like sharing that big of info. its very rude not to tell you why, but hey, you can't do much about it.

Well they just said "I wont battle you" but I guess i'll just wait and see what happens.

[revelp8]

Well they just said "I wont battle you" but I guess i'll just wait and see what happens.

lol. that's a lame excuse. maybe they're scared to face you. :twisted:

[Seth]

lol. that's a lame excuse. maybe they're scared to face you. :twisted:

Sure...Lets go with that.

[Gouswer]

When you say that the top battlers will battle it off in the playoffs you mean the top 4 right?

[Seth]

Hey, is there a chance the standings get updated in a more live matter, or is that too much effort?

[Whitdjinn]

just so you can see yourself back in 1st place? pshh...

we'll see, it was first day of NFL today = busy busy day of watching football to see how my fantasy players do. :P

the intent was for them to get updated weekly and its been far more than that this week at least, so yeah, more live than weekly is a reasonable expectation from here on out.

[Whitdjinn]

When you say that the top battlers will battle it off in the playoffs you mean the top 4 right?

With 22 players I was thinking top 8....with 15 or whatever we're down to now, top 4 is much more likely...perhaps top 6 with a 'wild card' type setup, we'll see where we're at at the end of the season.

[Seth]

just so you can see yourself back in 1st place? pshh...

we'll see, it was first day of NFL today = busy busy day of watching football to see how my fantasy players do. :P

the intent was for them to get updated weekly and its been far more than that this week at least, so yeah, more live than weekly is a reasonable expectation from here on out.

No that wasn't the reason, sorry if it seemed that way.

[Whitdjinn]

I was just givin ya a hard time :P

[Seth]

I was just givin ya a hard time :P

I'm not that much of a braggart :) I do care about how others are doing in the tourney.

[Rayfox-Kun]

wait is it gonna be the top 4 i thought it was the top 10 man i need get up in ranks fast :o
jks i have no clue

[revelp8]

man! those dropouts really did a number on me. :rolleyes:

where's DBB!!?

[Rayfox-Kun]

i was wondering the same thing i have to battle DBB this week but from what i see he hasnt been battling anyone at all he only battle cyndaquilannie the first week so what happens to him ?

[Seth]

i was wondering the same thing i have to battle DBB this week but from what i see he hasnt been battling anyone at all he only battle cyndaquilannie the first week so what happens to him ?

DBB hasn't been on since the 25th and I'm curious to know how exactly the end of this will work.

Rev, they did a number on everyone, but it will all cancel out in the end.

[Rayfox-Kun]

DBB hasn't been on since the 25th and I'm curious to know how exactly the end of this will work.



"If a participant does not complete any scheduled battles for 2 weeks in a row without communication they will be dismissed from the league."
written by Whidjinn

ok so i chked the rules to make sure if absent battlers break any rules and from what i saw above it seems DBB has broken that rule.
i dont mean to sound mean or anything but i really want to clear this whole DBB thing ok.

from what it says on his user profile he hasnt been on since the 25th of august ok and today is september 7 well for me it is at least so that is about 14 days meaning 2 weeks

last thing i want to say is will the rule above apply to DBB or what is gonna happen?

[nana nettie]

man! those dropouts really did a number on me. :rolleyes:

where's DBB!!?

You think you have it bad, the only win I have so far, and the person dropped out :bawling: I guess you don't have it that bad after all ;)

Anyways, I'm back and ready to rumble :lol: I still need to battle LS and DBB, but it looks like DBB may be out too :rolleyes1: So, LS let's get a date planned and finish up, then I'll be back on track :)

For those of you who battled Momtaro last week, thanks for being good sports :)

[LovelyStrife]

You think you have it bad, the only win I have so far, and the person dropped out :bawling: I guess you don't have it that bad after all ;)

Anyways, I'm back and ready to rumble :lol: I still need to battle LS and DBB, but it looks like DBB may be out too :rolleyes1: So, LS let's get a date planned and finish up, then I'll be back on track :)

For those of you who battled Momtaro last week, thanks for being good sports :)

Nana, I'll get you back your one win! :cool:

I'll message you next time I see you around when I can battle. We'll get something figured out. Our first battle was fun and I can't wait to have another one (or two). :-D

[Seth]

You think you have it bad, the only win I have so far, and the person dropped out :bawling: I guess you don't have it that bad after all ;)

Anyways, I'm back and ready to rumble :lol: I still need to battle LS and DBB, but it looks like DBB may be out too :rolleyes1: So, LS let's get a date planned and finish up, then I'll be back on track :)

For those of you who battled Momtaro last week, thanks for being good sports :)

Nana, if you follow that tip I gave you, you should have a change of fortune.

Is this the first EPFL?

[Rayfox-Kun]

Nana, if you follow that tip I gave you, you should have a change of fortune.

Is this the first EPFL?

yep first one ever dude :)

[nana nettie]

Nana, if you follow that tip I gave you, you should have a change of fortune.

Is this the first EPFL?

Thanks Seth, I plan to ;)

Here's for a turn around :praying: ;)

[Gouswer]

With 22 players I was thinking top 8....with 15 or whatever we're down to now, top 4 is much more likely...perhaps top 6 with a 'wild card' type setup, we'll see where we're at at the end of the season.


6 seems too much, its nearly 50% percent of all participants. It would encourage more people to do their best if it was limited to the top 4, since you still have half of the season to change your score dramatically. And what do you mean wild card? Do you mean it as in 2 wild card players joining the top 4? Or a dramatical change in the rules of the finals?

[Whitdjinn]

I meant 2 wild card players (the next best records) joining the top 4, like in sports. But yeah, 6 is probably too many :P

[Gouswer]

I meant 2 wild card players (the next best records) joining the top 4, like in sports. But yeah, 6 is probably too many :P

Thats good to hear. 4 seems more adequate. I was fearing a dramatic change in the rules like, the battles will be faught with no items, or no ice attacks. That would really take the competitive battling thing out of it.

[Whitdjinn]

Which is exactly the reason for this leage, to give the all-out battlers a place to do so thats more than just 'for fun' following general guidelines more closely than our gym battles.

In future seasons I see doing some other fun stuff with it there are definitely going to be changes made. This idea seemed to have a lot of fire going into the season, but the timing may have been off leading right into the school year - i seem to forget that having to work 40ish hours every week :P

[nana nettie]

With all the drop outs, and me being unable to battle, I've lost track of who I still need to battle :cry:

If I still need to battle you, please let me know :)
Thanks