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Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 09:37 AM
I'm not so sure about this team yet, and I know it has faults, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say! :)

Gallade-Focus Sash-Stead Fast
Adamant 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Brick Break
Psycho Cut
Leaf Blade
Night Slash

I know some of you are going to say that brick break is weak compared to Close Combat, but without the stat reduction, he can sweep half of a team. Leaf Blade is also a very surprising move which I have found to be helpful.

Charizard-Wise Glasses-Blaze
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def

Flamethrower
Focus Punch (I want to get rid of this, suggestions?)
Overheat
Air Slash

Air slash is not that great for coverage, but it OHKO's Infernapes and other Fighting types

Metagross-Choice Band-Clear Body
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Speed

Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch/Explosion
Earthquake
Pursuit

Great for catching flee-ers who are stuck into bad moves with Pursuit, or just catching those who fear him!

Roserade-Big Root/????-?????
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Sp Def

Grass Knot
Toxic/Toxic Spikes
Leech Seed
???

I'm not sure about this one at all. Potentially, I wanted to take advantage of the ToxicSeed combo, but then Steel or Grass types could destroy me. Dropping Grass Knot is extremely hard for me too, because it has always been incredibly useful. I'm not sure if Big Root is a good item either. I really need some suggestions with this set! :D

Empoleon-Leftovers-Torrent
Modest (I was considering Calm but I bred a pretty good Modest one) 252 HP, 112 Sp Att, 188 Sp Def

Blizzard/Ice Beam
Surf
Grass Knot
Stealth Rock/Brine/Drill Peck

I'm not sure which moves to run. Stealth Rock would be a great supporting move, Brine is really powerful when they're under 50% of their health, and Drill Peck is a surprise against Special Walls.

Mamoswine-????-Snow Cloak
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att (Before, instead of 252 HP I had 252 Speed, but he seemed too fragile. Comments?...)

Curse
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Body Slam/Stone Edge/???

I'm not sure about Body Slam. The paralysis support is great, but Stone Edge would have better coverage. Any other move suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

So, that's my team! I need any and all suggestions! Thanks in advance!!!!! :)

PikaGuy
08-23-2008, 10:33 AM
I'm not so sure about this team yet, and I know it has faults, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say! :)

Gallade-Focus Sash-Stead Fast
Adamant 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Brick Break
Psycho Cut
Leaf Blade
Night Slash

I know some of you are going to say that brick break is weak compared to Close Combat, but without the stat reduction, he can sweep half of a team. Leaf Blade is also a very surprising move which I have found to be helpful.

That is an odd item, as I usually run life orb or choice band on gallade, as it is semi-bulky.

Charizard-Wise Glasses-Blaze
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def

Flamethrower
Focus Punch-Go with Focus Blast
Overheat-Take it out, dragon pulse instead.
Air Slash

Air slash is not that great for coverage, but it OHKO's Infernapes and other Fighting types.

Since you have modest, focus punch is a no-no. Take out overheat also, you don't need two fire moves, and it doesn't fit well with the set.

Metagross-Choice Band-Clear Body
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Speed

Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch/Explosion
Earthquake
Pursuit

Great for catching flee-ers who are stuck into bad moves with Pursuit, or just catching those who fear him!

Standard Metagross, no problems here.

Roserade-Big Root/????-?????
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Sp Def

Grass Knot-If you don't like this, energy ball is good also.
Toxic/Toxic Spikes-Go with Toxic Spikes
Leech Seed
???-Protect

I'm not sure about this one at all. Potentially, I wanted to take advantage of the ToxicSeed combo, but then Steel or Grass types could destroy me. Dropping Grass Knot is extremely hard for me too, because it has always been incredibly useful. I'm not sure if Big Root is a good item either. I really need some suggestions with this set! :D

Spikes over toxic, better team support. Go with protect in the last slot. Lefties or black sludge is good.

Empoleon-Leftovers-Torrent
Modest (I was considering Calm but I bred a pretty good Modest one) 252 HP, 112 Sp Att, 188 Sp Def

Blizzard/Ice Beam-Ice Beam
Surf
Grass Knot
Stealth Rock/Brine/Drill Peck-Do Yawn. It forces switches, and spreads the toxic spikes.

I'm not sure which moves to run. Stealth Rock would be a great supporting move, Brine is really powerful when they're under 50% of their health, and Drill Peck is a surprise against Special Walls.

Go with modest, it'll help more IMO. Brine is a no-no, so is Drill Peck, because of nature.

Mamoswine-????-Snow Cloak
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att (Before, instead of 252 HP I had 252 Speed, but he seemed too fragile. Comments?...)See down there in red font.


Curse
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Body Slam/Stone Edge/???-Stone edge, Body slam sucks on everything but haxkiss.

I'm not sure about Body Slam. The paralysis support is great, but Stone Edge would have better coverage. Any other move suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Ahh, a CurseSwine. I love curse tanks, go with this EV spread: 170 Hp/252 Att/88 Def

So, that's my team! I need any and all suggestions! Thanks in advance!!!!! :)
My suggestion are in red.

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 11:41 AM
thanks for the suggestions! but on empoleon yawn is a move that i would have to breed into it. but do you think i should use roar? that actually does force switches.

also, toxic combined with leech seed makes an awesome combo! read the details here. CLICKY!!! (http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/attacks/t/toxic.htm)

LovelyStrife
08-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Well, I'm not terribly good at rating teams, but I do remember the battles we've had. Your Gallade looks solid, but maye consider changing the item. Your metagross looks like ones that I've seen in battle before. A standard yet effective build, I'm happy that i didn't see it in our last battle. lol

Well, that's about all that I have to say of note.... I think that PikaGuy has some good suggestions, especially on the Malmoswine. Looks like an interesting build to say the least.

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 12:19 PM
Haha, thanks. I don't really want to give Empoleon Yawn though.

PikaGuy
08-23-2008, 12:53 PM
Haha, thanks. I don't really want to give Empoleon Yawn though.
Then go with roar, it also works well. :)

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 12:55 PM
ok, sounds good. thanks for the advice! ^_^

PikaGuy
08-23-2008, 01:01 PM
ok, sounds good. thanks for the advice! ^_^
i think i remember you from the Nsider2 forums, did you go there?

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 01:07 PM
nope, probably someone with the same username ^_^

PikaGuy
08-23-2008, 01:09 PM
oh, cause someone there's username was catcatcat, exact same. =D

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 01:09 PM
...that poser...haha, j/k :)

Alirrath
08-23-2008, 05:24 PM
also, toxic combined with leech seed makes an awesome combo! read the details here. CLICKY!!! (http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/attacks/t/toxic.htm)

Your website is out of date. That did work for First Generation Pokemon, but it will not work for 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. A novel idea, but only for Red/Blue/Yellow. :)

cisco
08-23-2008, 05:47 PM
I'm not so sure about this team yet, and I know it has faults, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say! :)

Gallade-Life Orb-Stead Fast
Adamant 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Close Combat
Psycho Cut
Swords Dance
Night Slash

I know some of you are going to say that brick break is weak compared to Close Combat, but without the stat reduction, he can sweep half of a team. Leaf Blade is also a very surprising move which I have found to be helpful.

Charizard-Wise Glasses-Blaze
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6hp

Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Focus blast
Air Slash

Air slash is not that great for coverage, but it OHKO's Infernapes and other Fighting types

Metagross-Muscle Band-Clear Body
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Speed

Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Earthquake
Explosion/Ability/ Zen Headbutt

Great for catching flee-ers who are stuck into bad moves with Pursuit, or just catching those who fear him!

Roserade-Choice Scarf/ Natrual Cure
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed/ 6Hp

Grass Knot
Toxic
Grasswhitle
HP [Fire]

I'm not sure about this one at all. Potentially, I wanted to take advantage of the ToxicSeed combo, but then Steel or Grass types could destroy me. Dropping Grass Knot is extremely hard for me too, because it has always been incredibly useful. I'm not sure if Big Root is a good item either. I really need some suggestions with this set! :D

Empoleon-Leftovers-Torrent
Modest 252 HP, 252 Sp Att, 6 Sp Def

Ice Beam
Surf
Grass Knot
Flash Cannon


I'm not sure which moves to run. Stealth Rock would be a great supporting move, Brine is really powerful when they're under 50% of their health, and Drill Peck is a surprise against Special Walls.

Mamoswine-Muscle Band-Snow Cloak
Jolly 252Atk/252Speed/6hp

Avalanch
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stone Edge

I'm not sure about Body Slam. The paralysis support is great, but Stone Edge would have better coverage. Any other move suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

So, that's my team! I need any and all suggestions! Thanks in advance!!!!! :)

My opinion.

Catcatcat
08-23-2008, 11:16 PM
thanks for the suggestions!

but cisco, you converted all of my pokemon into attackers, and i had some of them more aimed towards support or walling...but thanks anyway! :)

T roo
08-24-2008, 01:11 AM
I'm not so sure about this team yet, and I know it has faults, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say! :)

Gallade-Focus Sash-Stead Fast
Adamant 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Brick Break
Psycho Cut
Leaf Blade
Night Slash

seams ok to me

Charizard-Wise Glasses-Blaze
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def

Flamethrower
Focus Punch (I want to get rid of this, suggestions?)
Overheat
Air Slash

replace over heat with substitute since he can ou speed most pokes to set up the focus punch. For maximum damage

Metagross-Choice Band-Clear Body
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att, 6 Speed

Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch/Explosion
Earthquake
Pursuit

Take choice band off replace it with Shell Bell, or Lef overs. And do bullet punch not explosion just incase both pokes are low you can make sure you get first hit knocking he opponent ou. Very useful.

You could always abuse his seal typing and have him hold toxic orb and instead of pursuit fling.

Roserade-Big Root/????-?????
Modest 252 Sp Att, 252 Sp Def

Grass Knot
Toxic/Toxic Spikes
Leech Seed
???

This could be your staller, Have i know Toxic, Leach seed, Grass Knot, and subsitue it will Hax them to death.

Replace it with a sunny dayer like leafeon with the move-set Sunny Day obiously, Synthasys, (solar Beam is optianal) Thunder Bol, and X scissor. With it's Special ability you can really take advantage of sunny day.

Mamoswine-????-Snow Cloak
Adamant 252 HP, 252 Att (Before, instead of 252 HP I had 252 Speed, but he seemed too fragile. Comments?...)

Curse
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Body Slam/Stone Edge/???

If you're going to have body slam speed isn't really necasary. And if your sunny dayer is still in process keep it out against water ype attacks (trust me as long as sunny day is in progress i can at least take to water type hits) Ice Shard, Earth uake, and Hail (to be used when you know they are going o switch.)


That's what I say.

Catcatcat
08-24-2008, 10:20 AM
thanks for the suggestions! :)

focus punch on charizard is a waste actually, because it does almost nothing...it couldn't even OHKO a weavile. i think i'm going to switch to focus blast. but thanks for your other suggestions! :)